Throwline......1.75MM.....or.....2.2MM???

2.2 with a 12oz bag. I used 1.75 for a year or two, it cut my hands when pulling the rope through and it would only last about 6 months before it began getting wind knots. The 2.2 might cost me 10' on total range but I can still shoot it over 100' when needed. And the 2.2 doesn't get wind knots as easily. My current line is almost 2 years old and is just now beginning to knot up on me.
 
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Do you all ever have trouble with the 8oz bags not coming back down because of too much friction and not enough weight?

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Definitely. You have to be pretty careful and if I think it will be a problem I use the heavier bag that doesn't throw as far but will definitely come down. Most days I can get by with the 8 oz using some fidangling (sp.?) to get the thing back to the ground.

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I was looking through the sherrill catalog today and noticed that the police dog leash snap ($7) might work as a trigger release for the big shot? Only thing is, it's got a tensile strength of 100lbs so not sure if it would hold the amount of pressure on a big shot. Just an idea.

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New England Ropes Dyna Glide is being reconfigured. The fiber used for the line has great potential. It is lightweight, strong [close to 1,000 pound break] and has almost no stretch.

In it's original configuration it does get fuzzy which makes it sticky. Stay tuned for the second generation.

I like using mine for busting out dead limbs and hangers.

Mine is tied onto the end of my Fling It. This is a nice assemnbly. The ZI is shot or thrown into the tree and used to isolate the limb. Then I pull the ZI through and use the DG end to pull my climbing rope into the tree. Since it doesn't stretch and is a bit wider and softer it is easier on the throwline callous on the outside of my little finger.
 
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I use 1.7mm Zing-it with 8oz. bags. This is my favorite setup for hand throws. Zing-it lasts longer than others, doesn't fray or glaze, and splices fairly well. I only have problems with tangling if it's been folded up in the cube for a more than a few days, but that's easy to fix. I like 2.2mm Fling-it with 10oz. bags for a back-up and for the Big Shot. Fling-it glazes badly and isn't spliceable but it's a nice size for the 10oz. NE DYNAGLIDE IS ALMOST THE WORST THROWLINE I HAVE EVER USED. After about 2 days it frays so badly that I could probably use a 5 lb. weight and STILL get the line stuck in a bark fissure or branch bark ridge! Dynaglide splices easily and is very strong so I use it for accessory cord and such.

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I first saw Dynaglide last fall. My first impression was that it was woven way too loosely. That is part of what gives it its strength, but I was thinking that the loose weave would allow it to fray too easily. That's why I didn't even bother buying it.

The strands of Zing It have a decent amount of twist to them, and the line is woven a little tighter. Both of these make the rope just a bit weaker in a straight pull, but WAYYYYYYYY better for what it is actually used for: pulling a super light weight over a rough surface.

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nick

ps- I'll trade you that 200' of dynaglide to use for accessory cord!
 
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Do you all ever have trouble with the 8oz bags not coming back down because of too much friction and not enough weight?

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Yes. Here's my fix for it: In rough barked trees, I'll throw the 8 ouncer, then when it starts coming down, I let the momentum bring it back to the ground. That almost always works. When it get's down, if I need to finaggle it, I'll clip on a steel biner (and maybe another throw weight) to add a pound to the weight. That will almost always be enough to let you dance it through the tree.

Oh, I forgot who mentioned it, but I've spliced Fling-it. It wasn't nearly as easy to do as Zing-it, but it is spliceable.

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nick
 
Oh, one last thing...my guess about the Dynaglide throwline is that it wasn't made as throwline. I THINK (and this is just a guess) that it was just the small diameter Endura-braid that they marketed as throwline, without tweaking it to perform the way a throwline should.

Glad to learn they are working on it.

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nick
 
Bill Shakespeare, from NER, saw the fiber being used in a rope that they make for pulling undersea cables. They took one strand of that cable and made Dynaglide. Now they're taking the strand and re-engineering it for a throwline.
 
1.75mm Fling-IT and then 1.75mm Red Zing-It over the Yellow. They're all pretty close.

What I see is the Fling-It will loft a bit more on lower angle throws, following the arc of the throwbag. Occasionally I snag one and have to break the line, so they both seem to have a low enough break point for that.

Babberney: 180 feet is now becoming helpful to have since we are removing the false crotch with a throwline instead of bombing it to the ground.

I've got some Slickline that is rotting in my trunk to remind me of the old days.

Next time you shake a climber's hand, you might feel that callous on their pinky.
 
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, OH NO - You mean my nice soft hand can get calloused? I do hope the gloves will help. I wear them anytime I work with any ropes.

I just ordered the zing it 1.75 and use a 12oz - getting some practice in.

Great suggestions in here

Thanks

Jz
 
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I just ordered the zing it 1.75 and use a 12oz - getting some practice in.

Great suggestions in here

Thanks

Jz

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12oz is going to be overkill with 1.75mm and it will limit the height of your throw. 10oz will fly much better. On smooth barked trees and most others you can get away with 8oz on the 1.75. The 1.75 is tangly! The 2.2(5?)mm is much less so and easier on the hands. My vote is for 2.2mm with 10oz. I use 60 ft. of the 1.75 with 8oz on each end for an in-tree throwline flaked into a small bag on my harness.

Slickline and 16oz is very good for learning to throw, you'll spend more time throwing and climbing than untangling and cursing Zing-It on the ground, unless you're extremely patient.
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Jp yer throwline looks like spectra.Kind-of oval (flat not round) Very strong 1200lb I think... and expensive (nice gift) I'm not sure if Sherill still sells it. Very hard to break. I stopped using it for setting lines and now use it as Tom mentioned about Pullin' hangers and on dead branches prior to ascent
 
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Next time you shake a climber's hand, you might feel that callous on their pinky.

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OH NO - You mean my nice soft hand can get calloused? I do hope the gloves will help. I wear them anytime I work with any ropes.

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Gloves will help to some extent. After some coaching I will take every opportunity to untie the throwbag and recover the line.

There's only one other occasion I've shaken someone's hand and figured out what they did-- fingerpickin' guitarist.
 
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, OH NO - You mean my nice soft hand can get calloused?

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When I was little I didn't even know what a calus was, I just thought it was normal for my hands to be like that. And after I learned it wasn't normal to just constantly have them (from other things too, not just rope) I figured out most of the girls I hang out with kinda like it that way anyway so I never really worried about it.
 
I don't use anything under 12....out here, lots of rough barked trees with dense, complex canopies. Even 12 oz w/1.75 ZI can be a problem. Had a 10 oz, lost it, do want another, though. Nothing worse than a successful throw that won't come back to earth....
 
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Nothing worse than a successful throw that won't come back to earth....

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How about hanging the THIRD line and having to throw the rope.

I have to give credit to Nick Martinez (2004 & 5 TxTCC Champ) of Arborilogical who lobs a monkey's fist of climbing line 50 feet in a crotch.
 
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