Throw line/ throw weight thread

[Matias]

Teufelberger Dynaglide Throw Line

dynaGLIDE throw line from Teufelberger is a coated Dyneema throwline that, due to its neon colors, is easily visible in trees. dynaGLIDE has a strong signaling effect due to its neon colors. The orange, yellow, red or green of the throwline provides for good visibility in the trees. Its coating...

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Arbsession sells dynaglide by the foot too, if you want longer than 200', but petzl and stein sell 60m(196') pre cut too.

 

[Webfoot]

Arbsession sells dynaglide by the foot too, if you want longer than 200',

That works out to $97.50 for 250 feet. Thanks, but no thanks.

Can throwline be spliced?

 

[27RMT0N]

@27RMT0N Do you ever wish it were more? I would hate to buy a longer line only to realize it was still too short.

No, 200' is plenty for 90% of the trees I work in. Any higher than that is not only very hard to reach with the BigShot (for me at least), but usually you can't even see what is going on up there and what you may or may not be tied into, so it becomes a safety issue.

When I do need to go higher than the 80-90 feet I can hit from the ground, I can have someone on the ground undo the base-tie so I can then advance it in the tree ending in a canopy tie, or tie on my 300' setup, or if I'm solo I can bring up a second shorter system to advance the rest of the way to the top.

 

[Matias]

That works out to $97.50 for 250 feet. Thanks, but no thanks.

Can throwline be spliced?

I didn't check the math first, but yea, I haven't found it useful to have any longer than 200' for the same reasons already mentioned.

 

[Boomslang]

I prefer Yale's Long Shot. You can get a 1000' spool for $146. Sign up to their email list for 10% off.

Yale Long Shot Throw Line - Lowest prices & free shipping | Maple Leaf Ropes

www.mapleleafropes.com

 

[Njdelaney]

You can buy Dynaglide in shorter lengths and splice it end to end. I have 3 different cubes all with Dynaglide that has been spliced and I've never had a splice come out. I also use them to pull all the time and lots of double bagging so a 200' line is very useful for me at least. I buy from a seller on eBay called Castobargains who frequently has dynaglide in lengths close to 100' for really cheap. I'll post a link. He has tons of rope and if you can't visually ID it, send a message and he'll tell you exactly what it is.

 

[Njdelaney]

1.8mm x 95' Dyneema Throw Line, Synthetic 12-Strand Braid UHMPE Throwline | eBay

1.8mmx 95 feet of 12-strand 100% dyneema throwline. Line has a safety green coating for higher abrasion resistance. Color: Safety Green. Made in the USA.

www.ebay.com

 

[Njdelaney]

95' for $13.50 is hard to beat. I do a double-double brummel and then a long bury, like about 12". Feed the whole length through the second brummel because it's worth the time and hassle.

 

[evo]

95' for $13.50 is hard to beat. I do a double-double brummel and then a long bury, like about 12". Feed the whole length through the second brummel because it's worth the time and hassle.

I've only found the need for non locking brummels and a 3" burry. Way more than enough! Playing around I did splice eyes and did 28" straight bury, I really liked the way it threw but didn't like it enough to spend the time to do it again.

 

[islandarb]

I learned double bagging at the Ontario comp in 2016, and it changed my life

I learned it at geezers in 2013. It waa a game changer for me.

 

[Serf Life]

I prefer Yale's Long Shot. You can get a 1000' spool for $146. Sign up to their email list for 10% off.

Yale Long Shot Throw Line - Lowest prices & free shipping | Maple Leaf Ropes

www.mapleleafropes.com

Tell us more please. What’s better about it?

 

[Boomslang]

Tell us more please. What’s better about it?

vs Dynaglide

Pros: it's more durable, it's stronger, it tangles less, it's cheaper

Cons: it's stiffer and doesn't flake as nicely

The pros mean more than the cons to me.

 

[27RMT0N]

Hopefully it doesn't come like the photo, that looks like a twisted tangled mess!

But seems like a bargain, I may give it a go next time I need a new throwline.

 

[ClimbingTN]

I was on a job the other day without my preferred Zing-it. I used a Weaver kit with 14oz bag and heavy throw line, cube. It worked great. I’m currently searching for it.

 

[Bart_]

What's the thoughts on 1.8 vs 2.2 dia throwline? I started on 2.2 but somehow currently have 1.8. 1.8 flys up better.

 

[Matias]

What's the thoughts on 1.8 vs 2.2 dia throwline? I started on 2.2 but somehow currently have 1.8. 1.8 flys up better.

I agree, and throw with 1.8, but keep a 2.2 for double bagging and pulling up my 5/8 rigging line when pulling big trees over.

 

[Stumpsprouts]

Edilrig hotline is my favorite, everyone who sees it also wants it. Doesn’t self-knot as much and the same line will last you years, since it has a nylon core, I believe. Picked it up off the shelf of a local store, I think I’ve had two hanks in 4 years, only lost one when I sold it. Works great in a big shot.

 

[Quintanana]

i always thought throwline kit was cheapest tool that can also $ave the most money upfront at start of job...

I prefer slipped anchor connection.
Without BS I like spread balanced pendulum swing between knees.
Pretty good at 'walking the dog' a bit, by snapping hard off lower limb to flip backwards over 1 a few feet higher
>> don't use very much, but look hard before wasting throw.
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Many trix, I like inversion of Bowline to Girth holding pulley for low friction pre tighten, lift or run after etc.
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Very high friction via Round Turn threaded overhead via throwline w/carabineer half way thru and tag line to it for remote pull.
Tag line facilitates sweat/swig pre tighten and rope retrieval as well as eventual removal. Need heavy load, moving slow to work it.
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Sweating, as a term found hear, to me is like in chemistry, when extrude by precipitating/sweating solids from liquid solute. The tighter the rope is inline, the less rubbery /so more rigid lever response on operations in across dimension/lateral 90degree from inline. The more force can sweat/extrude out of nowhere like magic, like in chemistry.
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A fave throwline trick for palms and storm topped stuff where no good place for rope with branch. So drag up running Bowline w/ tail threaded thru to keep open until from low strength upper allow lower grip to stronger trunk part to trust pull to. Can even work over small stob etc. even lace over low branches before star Bowline...

Sometimes seems as creativity with these simplest, pivotal tools is only limit.

I worked the Lahaina Fire clean up and did this a lot for crownless palms. Accuracy was key but it was good skill to pull out.

The other thing I tried was taking both legs and tying a vt and around the stem. One leg down to a basal and the other as the pull side

 

[Neill]

Longer is not always better. That can be a bigger snafu/ bird nest at times. I like a few lengths in separate cubes. not longer than 200’ though

Hopefully it doesn't come like the photo, that looks like a twisted tangled mess!

But seems like a bargain, I may give it a go next time I need a new throwline.

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i had a similar thought when I looked. But hey a well coiled rope can come uncoiled without tangle so I guess it might be ok?

 

[Boomslang]

Hopefully it doesn't come like the photo, that looks like a twisted tangled mess!

But seems like a bargain, I may give it a go next time I need a new throwline.

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I believe that's actually how it comes if you buy the 150' or 200' lengths. I can't imagine they would do that for 1000'

It's definitely not coiled all pretty like Dynaglide, but because it's Maxi jacket coated and very stiff when new it's doesn't tangle.