The aim of demonstrations?

Re: The aim of demonstrations?/harmonic oscillations

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Mark, Tom, can I just use my real name from here onwards instead of contractclimber. I mean, Ive never even had a contract in my whole life, well apart from the serious one with my wife.

Anyhow I dont like it anymore, sounds pretentious and well...just dumb!


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Cool, I'll show my mom there's a Coates arborist out there. She'll be impressed, she used to be a Coates.
 
Just looking for some discussion/solutions from employers...

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Presumably the role of trainers and assessors is to equip aspiring arborists with the skills their prospective employers will be looking for.

If I was in the market for a tree climber, I would be more impressed, when it came to reducing rigging forces, if the climber was looking to use a lowering device with a large diameter drum that was fixed to the tree - like the GRCS with the bollard option(as opposed to a floating device with a narrower drum); and if they considered cutting the piece twice to halve the weight.

I would imagine this type of approach would be more beneficial to employers.
 
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Presumably the role of trainers and assessors is to equip aspiring arborists with the skills their prospective employers will be looking for.



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Your right there Nailer. But with so much legislation employers can't keep up and aren't sure what they should be looking for. They expect their employees to be shown the way on training courses, to feed back to the company. With the Work at Height regulations, solutions aren't being fed back into the field (because of no guidance from the Sector Skills Council), and when they are, they aren't always appreciated, because employers don't always want to accept change, regardless of risks of prosecution.

In effect, the industry has its head in the sand, pretending the risk of prosecution isn't there, or can be explained away by risk assessment - well my take on that is, however clever we think we are, a good barrister can make us look pretty stupid pretty quick if any holes are left in the justification.

An HSE objective for 2008 is to cold call on arborists and see what they are doing about controlling risks under the WAHR05 and LOLER98.

There are simple and effective ways of working within the WAHR05. Just takes a bit of thought.

The Sector Skills Council report on skills needs in the industry, also found that the trees and timber industry is in real trouble; employers can't find the skills required at any level from craftsman to management, because the training and education system is failing them. Thats right, they indirectly criticised their own training arm as ineffective???

Many employers are now undertaking their own in house training systems, to stop the 'ticket trade' and in effect instill their own apprenticeships to see some return on their employee investment. Thats a wise move (with the proper advice). It means training is specific to the tools, techniques and equipment of the company - much more specific and effective.
 
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An HSE objective for 2008 is to cold call on arborists and see what they are doing about controlling risks under the WAHR05 and LOLER98.



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Like to see that happening. Whose gonna be visiting from HSE? Qualified arborists?
 
No, HSE inspectors I should think. Most are very aware of arb issues and have been trained specifically for them. If you get a visit and get the impression they haven't a clue what they are on about, politely request that you could speak with someone that does understand. I wouldn't hold your breath though.
 

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