TCIA Legislative / Regulatory Alert:

I get the point here, but in all seriousness that doesn't cut it (no pun intended). If I have a 30-ft spar and a clear drop zone, I feel it is much safer to flop it than to take it in several pieces, each with the potential to go awry and damage me or the property.

fewer cuts=fewer chances to have a problem

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Agreed, but fewer cuts means you're in a whole new catagory rules and reg's wise. From my phone calls yesterday, coverage rate increases haven't been calculated yet but the "ballpark" figure was comparable to Bering Sea crab fishing, hard-rock miner, and aerial artist for the circus. Tougher was the agent's frustrating attempts at finding a carrier. So much for competitive enterprize in America. Roughly from $800 a month to $2,500 or more, according to her estimates - if there's a company willing to underwrite.

I think I'll keep my removal sections below six feet and stay small. The advantage I see is operational costs astronomically lower than the big boys - a price war where the victor is the little guy for once. If Davey and etc. bid competitively from now on, a call to OSHA might be to our advantage. That or they can help settle this one-sided dispute. Another advantage is that climbers and bucket operators will have to be used for felling in non-timber contracts - unless the company is wishing to spend the big bucks for just a few clear-drops.

I also see a lot of independent mills accepting short logs to skirt this fiasco. I'm really just hoping for revolt instead, but hopes are low now days.
 
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'cause it's the law now.

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Legal or not, that's right. Until this is settled any OSHA inspector could enforce this regulation.

Anyone who does treework and has bad mouthed TCIA deserves to have their mouth washed out with soap. TCIA has been at the sharp edge in fighting this issue. When I was at ISA/STL I spent some time talking with Peter Gerstenberger about this reg and the alleged interest by OSHA to write an arbo standard. He's confused about this seeming backstep. After working on issues like this w/OSHA he does have the understanding that he should not be surprised anymore.

Knowing that you don't know is a calming place in life. At least for me.
 
It smells of Friday-night executive directives, being Congress is off for the rest of summer and the federal register has it already carved in stone. Highly suspect of pressure from the insurance industry that couldn't influence such a move while under scrutiny of committee - which it was in the process of.

I think the TCIA would do well to adjust it's tack some - from diplomatic and fair to coersion and threat. NRA blackmails, as does Blackwater and Halliburton. To be effective one must play the game Rome plays. I'm excited of the backfire it promises they didn't anticipate - us small guys will soon dominate the vocation, and allow small operators to prosper again, like America used to be.
 
us small guys will soon dominate the vocation, and allow small operators to prosper again, like America used to be. [/quote

Oak,!!

I don't believe it!

Encouragement given to your fellow tree guy!

and right befor the weekend ?!

I'm starting to feel good about my future!

Thanks,
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(what did I do to deserve this?)
 
You're definition of "to prosper" is much different from mine, and different from the next guys as well. Everyone views wealth and prosperity in a different way.

I agree that we need to become a more tight knit community and have a somewhat level playing field and clear "rule book" in our industry. Hopefully all the calls, emails, and legislative actions aren't falling on deaf ears!
 
Let me define mine:

Alive still and fair enough health to do most things both needed to and have a desire for.

Warm in Winter and a dry shelter, without immediate fear of foreclosure or forced removal.

Able to still manage pain enough to have equal good moments with the not-so-easy ones. Give or take an hour or so either way.

To not have to experience more than already, the pain of other's who feel horror imposed and never called it or knowingly allowed it possible.

To someday, within my lifetime, witness true human potential on a social scale without impediment thru greed, power, or control, and working effectively on that by power of all the above.

My truck still operating enough with equity that which I maintain it thru, it gets me to many more job sites and miles ahead and my family allowed to function to their needs and future without undue bloodshed and impediment brought on by others - if they practice and live innocently.

I need not to fashion or to submit to judgemental impositions off the required social norms to acheive the above, or to create and live off airs of supposition that image of success is tantamount to prosperity.

Then if I go and leave, it's when I can look back feel thankful for my time here and am allowed to smile and acknowledge the gift that was granted me to have all the above and saw at least parity from both sides, both good and evil. The earth, from my humble and comparatively insignificant actions, is a better place than when I was born onto it.
 
Looks like you're more defining contentment,
(imagine, jim454 correcting oakwilt)

To prosper: To be fortunate or successful, especially in terms of one's finances.

I can see why you did your best to keep money out of the subject, it might make you look like a capitalist.
 
Tim, thanks for taking the time to let us know about these latest issues with OSHA. Hopefully TCIA can help us out with this.

When we find out who we can write to, I think everyone on this site should voice their concern. I know I will.
 
Peter Gertsenberger is full of s*it. I found that out a long time ago , and anybody who wants to argue that point bring it on . To put all that effort into the ANZI standard and to hear all the prima donna bs since than and to now get an internet notice is typical policitical bs . TCIA is so full of sh*t , it's only things like this that bring them to the front line . Great EXPO though , takes more than a green jacket to make you a bussiness man . Write your letters , hell write a song , it won't matter , we're urban loggers . The only thing more full of sh*t than Osha is TCIA .
 

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