TCIA Legislative / Regulatory Alert:

Like it or not - a bunch of tree jocks nationwide wouldn't generally lift a finger to affect change just like a majority of Americans don't give a rat's [bad word] about troop deaths - but for the most part we rely on a small group or an individual to work the skids to make our lives a little better - whether we support or disagree with those folks on most issues. If by fat chance TCIA manages to get things straightened out on the regulatory changes, we all will benefit but very few will compensate them for the effort.

From my fiscal standpoint, if I decide to remain in the tree biz doing what I do - the monies I might could save by having the rules revert back to sane designations far overshoot whatever the TCIA's existance might otherwise cost me for whatever else they do. I think we all owe them at least for this effort - some gratitude and at a minimum, a little support.
 
dang Reed that post was honest.
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the monies I might could save by having the rules revert back to sane designations far overshoot whatever the TCIA's existance might otherwise cost me for whatever else they do. I think we all owe them at least for this effort - some gratitude and at a minimum, a little support.

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Maybe contributing membership dues would be a place to start. Then lift another finger, and...
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http://www.tcia.org/PDFs/Membership_Package.pdf
 
300 bucks is a lot to drop for a solo climber working for one of the bigger dogs. When I get my smaller venture started I'll drop it into expenses for the sake of helping where I can.
 
Wait a minute! Does this mean that if we cut a piece longer than 6' when it is being rigged (lowered/lifted with rope), we are still classified as a logger?
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Or, is it simply something cut out of the tree with out rope?

That would mean no more of this...
 

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It means that my premiums for coverage can increase up to 300% and that translates to my $500 jobs for retired people have to become $750 consistantly and the industrial jobs skyrocket accordingly, by my number crunching.

That is a boon for Juan and Bubba, in their pick-up with two ladders and a carton of Doral onehundreds.
 
How can we "make lemonade with a lemon"? Well, the first thing I think of is raising my rates simply because in the eyes of the general public, the logging industry is consistently one of the most dangerous jobs in the country. And for that level of risk, we all should be paid for it.

I don't know about many other folks out there, but my general liability right now is only $1,400 per year. What could I expect it to go up by? How about Workman's Comp?
 
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How can we "make lemonade with a lemon"? Well, the first thing I think of is raising my rates simply because in the eyes of the general public, the logging industry is consistently one of the most dangerous jobs in the country. And for that level of risk, we all should be paid for it.

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But, that can only "fly" as long as the customer is educated as to how dangerous our jobs really are. And that is going to cost time and money...
 
I am still waiting on details but it looks like OSHA may budge a bit on the directive, we should know this week for sure.

To answer Jamin's question: Yes, if you lower anything that is longer than 6', you would need to follow 1910.266, according to the illegal directive.
 
It is part of the sales process to educate them to the underlying value of the work. The danger to the worker when you do it and therefore the additional steps taken to mitigate the danger. Reducing the risk to the homeowner should it be done by them or a fly-by-night hack, etc, etc.... It's part of the maturing of the industry.
 
allright I'm with ya , a little support . Anzi has been basically shoved down our throats for how many years ? Seriously . how many ? One golden rule is not to talk politics or religion because it might stir the crowd. Here we have a failed agenda with typical political responses . Why did it not pass ( can't answer) What's going on { can't answer ) Join the TCIA and it will work for you ( really?)
Where ever money is involved there is a problem , if our safety was really the issue than there wouldn't be a problem ! Would there ?(no) So let's tip toe through the tulips and keep smashing trees the way we've been smashing them . Keep the money in our pockets . Keep waiting on them details , what's another decade to the "new" revised ANZI standard for tree care .
"Sign sign everywhere a sign , blocking out the scenery breaking my mind , do this don't do that , can't you read the sign" (five man electric band 1970)
 
Shoved??? When I try to buy a pair of chainsaw pants nobody carries them as a stock item. Why? Nobody buys them. The only time chaps are sold is when someone has been ordered to by OSHA. PPE is virtually an option at most companies and much of what is described in the ANSI standard is hardly adhered to.

It is the exception not the rule. Yes, many on this site follow it and enforce PPE requirements. While I hear many state it's their decision and they'll live with the consequences, what is forgotten is the ramification for everyone else. Higher insurance premiums, WC rates, and OSHA not taking the industry seriously when it's representatives lobby for acceptance of the standards developed by the industry itself.

I don't like having to pay for others' defiance and individualism when the sh#t hits the fan for them.
 
Don't forget the ramifications to the families when someone is injured or killed and it is discovered that the injured/killed person was not following industry standards.
Basically they will get absolutely NOTHING for their loss.
 
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