Tall, dead and rotted pine

climbingmonkey24

climbingmonkey24

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IMG_1295.webp IMG_1294.webp Went and looked at this job the other day. There is a nice tall tree near it that could be used to tie into as a life saver. Still not your first choice of tree to climb. Unfortunately it's located in an area where there's no bucket truck access. Only other option would be a lift of some sort. Too close to property to fell whole. What do you guys think?
 
Can't completely tell but in the 1st picture there is a tree to the right. Could you climb up it and put one block or ring high up in the lead that splits to the right. Then put another block or ring directly across from the first in the other lead as your back up. Then redirect again to a block or ring below the main crotch where your rigging tree splits in two. Then go to a grcs. From there I would tie off the tree to be removed 4/7ths the way up. Then notch and back cut from the ground and crank it slowly into the tree with the grcs. All this assuming I get what's going on from the picture and my perspective isn't off
 
However you consider handling that tree, bear in mind first and foremost that the client looked at that tree getting sick, dying and rotting for a long time before they finally got scared enough to call you. This is a problem of their making. If it can't be climbed, see if it can be safely worked with a high-line from other trees.(If you're experienced at that technique) Otherwise use a crane if possible. If not, see if it can be worked from a lift. If none of those options work, then tell the client that the only safe way to bring the tree down now is to fell it. Then tell them where you're realistically able to bring it down, and ask them where they'd prefer it land within that area.

I'm not sure where it is, but there's a very well written article that speaks to this exact issue in Treebuzz Archives. It even included a flow chart to help arborists make an objective and safe decision about how to work a sketchy tree.

We're problem solving types as a rule, and when a client brings out a problem, it can be tough to keep things in perspective and not take ownership of the problem and solution.

Figure out whether or not there's a way to work it safely with appropriate equipment and techniques and price it accordingly or walk away. The client has been looking at that train wreck for a long time now without doing anything. Don't make their lapse of care into your life changing problem.
 
Fences are easy to fix. You are not. Cerviarborist is absolutely right, the client waited too long and now their options are limited and will probably all involve some property damage. That's their fault not yours. Maybe get a throw line in it high and break the top out. Doesn't look like it would take much to do that but I wouldn't climb that.
 
A few years back, I got called to look at a dead Fir. What I found was a very large, very dead, super nasty Fir that was way beyond climbing, or putting a saw in. I called a guy out here who blasts big, dead trees. This old timer was a true artist, and the tree came straight down, and turned into a pile of rumble. Amazing to watch.
 
rico said:
A few years back, I got called to look at a dead Fir. What I found was a very large, very dead, super nasty Fir that was way beyond climbing, or putting a saw in. I called a guy out here who blasts big, dead trees. This old timer was a true artist, and the tree came straight down, and turned into a pile of rumble. Amazing to watch.
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That sounds pretty cool.
 
'Splode it bro. Call in the air strike.

I like the breaking off the top plan. Then pulling over the rest. The other trees available would be the deciding factor.
Rigging the top to be pulled over with throwline could work too. Then climber could go up make a big fat hinge and get out before pulling with MA
 
cerviarborist said:
It took awhile for me to find, but here's the link to the article I'd remembered. Kudos to Mark Bridge. http://www.treemagineers.com/blog/on-saying-no/
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When reading this article i was remember`d of a birch i did some years ago. It was a 70ft birch on a cemetary. Rotten as hell and dead for years. I got a rope up there and when my groundi pull`d it, the rootplate was moving. At the end we moved some stones and fell`d the tree. One small oak lost a branch and no more damage at all. That tree was standing there way too long...
 
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