Suggestions on a new climbing saddle???

I have had an ergo for just over a year now...

Before this I was in a BFII everyday and love it, it really fits my climbing style, light and sleek and comfy and durable!. I truly believe it made me a faster climber.

With that said: for me; the ergo is way to heavy, way to bulky and WAY to expensive! in comparison (for me) the BFII is almost as comfy, half the weight and half the price.

I'll be honest.. after a few weeks, I went back to the BFII and the ERGO became the most expensive back up saddle ever. I still use it once and a while and it is super comfy. If I had to do it over again, I would go for a treemotion for sure. or a petzl, or a treeflex or...any other modern saddle out there besides the ergo.

Sorry Ed, I respect your design and effort into making a "healthier saddle" it just didn't work for me
 
So would most of you say that the treemotion is better than the ergo? What about treemotion vs. bfII? I heard that when the TM rope bridge has weight on it, it can be easily cut with about five teeth of a hand saw.
 
I do not have much time in a TM at all and none with a saw so I can't speak to that.

I do know that I have tried many of the saddles out there and the BFII compares with all of them

I do like the sequoia SRT and treeflex slightly more then the BFII just because of the SRT capability.

I can say that I have had my BFII for 6 years. and still shows very little wear for a 6 year old non-leather saddle.

I bet my ERGO would not be in nearly as good of condition if I put 6 years of hard climbing into it.

just my opinions from my experiences
 
Never climbed in a TM but I've instected several at comps... I like the design but most of the ones I saw were brand new or beat to crap. Compared to a BF or an old Buck, they aren't durable. I think TM version II will probably be something special if they ever come out with one.
 
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Just wondering why the ergovation is so expensive,i mean isnt it actually made in america.

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This will add to the cost. Shipping is cheap, just resource intensive, compared to labor rates here versus in a less developed country where there are lesser labor/ environmental codes.

R & D is expensive. Smaller number of orders will keep costs higher until it becomes more popular and economies of scale start to come more into play.
 
I love my ergo. It does weight more while I carry it to the tree but once I put it on and its adjusted right its weight nothing. I don't expect it to last as long as a master or one of the older saddles but if you spend 20-40 hours a week plus, its a great saddle. I love the back support. It helps me greatly.
 
and this is why it is hard to judge a saddle from other peoples experiences, what works for some will not work for others.... the ERGO is a good comfy saddle, it just didn't work for me, My biggest suggestion is to try some saddles on and hang from them before you buy.

opinions vary from person to person, heck I'm still a huge fan of the master II, I never see people is that old thing anymore.
 
I love my ergo. Everyone seems to complain about the weight and I just dont see it. Its extremely comfortable, durable, and efficient. Once its sized and fitted, there's nothing like it. Also the rope bridge is connected to two rigging plates. Those rigging plates are sooooo handy, I clip in to them all the time with my flip line and climbing line when a situation calls for it (I hate hanging from my hips). The price is a bit high, but you get what you pay for. The ergo is so versatile and adaptable to your climbing style that your learning curve with a new saddle is minimal. Its a very well thought out design!
 
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Anyone familiar with these?
Petzl Boss.
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I'm in the market for a new fall arrest/ bucket harness and thought it would be nice to be able to easily transfer onto a rope. As far as I understand here in Canada the FA has to be permanently attached...
Also looks easy to add on a floating bridge.

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I have the Mini Boss without the fall arrest. Very comfy saddle. It is actually a Navaho Boss, the predesessor to the Navaho Sit.

Yep, very easy to add a rope bridge. I made one out of 1/2 Safety Blue. Very comfy for doing large removals or crane work where you have to spend a long time in the saddle. It takes a bit of fiddling to get it dialed in but once you get it setup it is very form fitting and comfy. Also, it is set up for SRT out of the box. The boss even has an attachment for a croll. With the Mini Boss you need to buy a secur for the croll attachment. I have been climbing in mine for almost a year now and love it.

The cons:

First of all this saddle has been discontinued by Petzl. Not recalled, they just don't make them anymore. They have evolved into the Navaho Sit. There are still some available and can be had for a very reasonable price. I think you would be surprised at how affordable one of these could be had for if you care to do a google search.

The side D's are not very large. I would prefer larger D's but have gotten used to the smaller D's.

Also, the adjustment straps like to come loose on this saddle. After you climb a little bit you will notice you have to tighten up your adjustment straps. I fixed this by getting mine dialed in then applied electrical tape to the straps to keep them from loosening up.

Bottom line, this is not a belt on, buckle up saddle. It will take a little bit of customizing to add your bridge and whatnot and you will have to fiddle with it a little bit to get it dialed in and keep it that way.

Very comfy though. I am kicked back in mine in my avatar.
 
I have an ergo and a cougar. One high end saddle and one medium price. I like the leg straps on the ergo better and the waist belt on the cougar better. The leg straps on the ergo can be set where you want them with velcro in relation to the buckles. The waist belt has problems with digging into my hips and all the straps used for adjusting take up a lot of space inside an accessory krab. The leg strap pads on the cougar are too thick and not wide enough therefore pinching me where no guy wants to be pinched. The waist belt is great, with two tightly sewn loops for accessory krabs and it fits my hips nicely and carries a tool load much better than the ergo. The cougar also looks like it will outlast the ergo 3 to 1. Thinking of swapping leg straps for a trial basis, as soon as I configure a way to attach the straps in the back.
 
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