Stein boots ?

[Oroboros]

Anyone wearing the Stein Defender boots? I have a line on a pair and am looking for any reviews.
I wear Meindl Airstreams and have a wide foot.

 

[JD3000]

 

[Joeybagodonuts]

Anyone wearing the Stein Defender boots? I have a line on a pair and am looking for any reviews.
I wear Meindl Airstreams and have a wide foot.

I've been trying to decipher the major differences between Steins boot lineup but have had no luck in doing so.. the Proprietary Marketing terms really blur my understandings on the stuff that isn't clearly obvious. I would however, like a better understanding regardless of below.

To me on paper, they look very very big & bloated.. that may be ok with some, but to me it's kinda a turn off as my foot requires a boot that's wide enough as it is without the added bulk/bloat that comes with saw protection, toe caps, etc.. It ends up forcing me into a completely different spur technique than I'm used when trying to use my pole gaffs on bigger wood. That may sound goofy or far fetched, but for some reason it's never been an issue till i switched to this G.r.i.p pole gaff design.. it's like they aren't stood off from the spur enough & the ball of my foot ends up making more contact with spar then the gaff when trying to step.

Oroboro, since you have a wide foot, your probably a good candidate for this question.. have you noticed any discomfort with the toe cap on your Airstreams? Or does it completely clear your toes with no hot spots or rubbing? I've always had really bad luck with steel toes. It's like they don't make the toe cap wider when the boot is a built as a wide.. of course that makes it wider (which im expressing as a downside above), but I'm just curious what you've experienced in general.

 

[deevo]

Anyone wearing the Stein Defender boots? I have a line on a pair and am looking for any reviews.
I wear Meindl Airstreams and have a wide foot.

Mike I’ve had them since they came out, great climbing boot and are holding up strong, I’ve got a wide foot as well. They aren’t rigid either like the Arbortecs.

 

[Oroboros]

I've been trying to decipher the major differences between Steins boot lineup but have had no luck in doing so.. the Proprietary Marketing terms really blur my understandings on the stuff that isn't clearly obvious. I would however, like a better understanding regardless of below.

To me on paper, they look very very big & bloated.. that may be ok with some, but to me it's kinda a turn off as my foot requires a boot that's wide enough as it is without the added bulk/bloat that comes with saw protection, toe caps, etc.. It ends up forcing me into a completely different spur technique than I'm used when trying to use my pole gaffs on bigger wood. That may sound goofy or far fetched, but for some reason it's never been an issue till i switched to this G.r.i.p pole gaff design.. it's like they aren't stood off from the spur enough & the ball of my foot ends up making more contact with spar then the gaff when trying to step.

Oroboro, since you have a wide foot, your probably a good candidate for this question.. have you noticed any discomfort with the toe cap on your Airstreams? Or does it completely clear your toes with no hot spots or rubbing? I've always had really bad luck with steel toes. It's like they don't make the toe cap wider when the boot is a built as a wide.. of course that makes it wider (which im expressing as a downside above), but I'm just curious what you've experienced in general.

I have had issues with toe caps in the past but not with the Meindls. It seems to happen when doing a lot of side hill walking.

 

[Oroboros]

Thanks for the replies. I pulled the trigger on them just to have back up boots. They were a good deal.

 

[Joeybagodonuts]

Mike I’ve had them since they came out, great climbing boot and are holding up strong, I’ve got a wide foot as well. They aren’t rigid either like the Arbortecs.

Hey Deevo..
Can you explain a little on what you mean by "Rigid". Are you talking about the midsole/sole construction or another aspect..

& Are you referring to Arbotec boots in general or a specific model..

Personally, I'm looking for rigidity in the sole construction, but without the extra bulk/weight you typically get with a saw protection arb boot or your typical logger..

Basically looking for something like the low bulk of Clip & Steps, etc, but WITH the stiff sole of a logger to complement spur work...

I have had issues with toe caps in the past but not with the Meindls. It seems to happen when doing a lot of side hill walking.

Oh yeah for sure.. that's brutal with a toe cap that doesn't have enough room..

I feel as if im looking for something that doesn't exist & a two boot solution is going to be the better option for me.

I just haven't invested the time/$$ into the trial & error process..

 

[deevo]

Hey Deevo..
Can you explain a little on what you mean by "Rigid". Are you talking about the midsole/sole construction or another aspect..

& Are you referring to Arbotec boots in general or a specific model..

Personally, I'm looking for rigidity in the sole construction, but without the extra bulk/weight you typically get with a saw protection arb boot or your typical logger..

Basically looking for something like the low bulk of Clip & Steps, etc, but WITH the stiff sole of a logger to complement spur work...
Oh yeah for sure.. that's brutal with a toe cap that doesn't have enough room..

I feel as if im looking for something that doesn't exist & a two boot solution is going to be the better option for me.

I just haven't invested the time/$$ into the trial & error process..

Ski boot kinda feel, my abrbortec scaffel lites took a long time to break in. Once broken in they have a bit more flex and stuff.