Stein Arb Trolley

Evan Sussman said:
We had a job last year. It was a dying white fir about 120' down a 10-15 degree (average) sloped yard. Driveway at the top. Normally a perfect job for the chipper winch, but there were two "rolls" in the slope, so butts would impale the ground and ruin it.

Groundie got over zealous and put what amounted to a 10' diameter bundle of limbs in a pile. We ended up tucking the axle of the arbor trolly (removed the handle) under the front of the bundle. It worked awesome. I think we steered the bundle, but no damage to the turf, and I think the 120' x 30" fir was just two winched bundles.

Well worth the money. Everytime I take the trolley off the truck I hesitate because it's ackeard to get on and off the catwalk, but every single time I think or say out loud that it was 100% worth the effort to unload it, and I wished I hadn't procrastinated...
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If you dread having to do the task of removing or replacing the Trolley, it sort of suggests to me that the task is harder than it ought to be. Might there be any way to rig up a simple pulley system to assist with raising and lowering the Trolley into position? Possibly incorporating some kind of progress capture device to prevent dropping the load?

Take what I say with a grain of salt; you have much more experience than I do, and know what your setup involves, and I do not.

The funny saying they have in my primary job is as follows: "If you want to get the hardest job done in the easiest way possible, you get the laziest man to do it." I am that lazy man.

Thanks for your time.

Tim
 
My trolley travels compact style, so I always have to adjust the tongue. This means it's easier to take the tongue off, load/unload the noticably lighter heavy, main part, strap it down, andand re assemble on the chipper/ ground.

Easier than intact.

Evan, maybe an easier on/off location and attachment would help.




Btw, the main body fits and pins into 2" hitch tube. The tongue will fit in hitch tube, and maybe regular square tube (internal seam).
 
This is how the arbor trolley rides. Normally there are 6-8 Alterna mats just behind the arbor trolley along that catwalk.

It's ideal in that it was unused space and it's always with us. It's not ideal that it's kind of awkward to have to lift it above that diagonal bar and not scratch the bucket truck with the top of the stake pockets as your lowering it on and off.

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TimBr said:
If you dread having to do the task of removing or replacing the Trolley, it sort of suggests to me that the task is harder than it ought to be. Might there be any way to rig up a simple pulley system to assist with raising and lowering the Trolley into position? Possibly incorporating some kind of progress capture device to prevent dropping the load?

Take what I say with a grain of salt; you have much more experience than I do, and know what your setup involves, and I do not.

The funny saying they have in my primary job is as follows: "If you want to get the hardest job done in the easiest way possible, you get the laziest man to do it." I am that lazy man.

Thanks for your time.

Tim
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These are some great ideas. I will keep them in mind. At this point I'm not sure the overhead rigging point is there in the current position. It would have to be specifically built.
 
monkeylove said:
That position is what I was thinking Evan, just on my chipper tongue if I can work out the mounting.
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That would be ideal as it's a much easier lift. Our chippers current battery box is side mounted to the tongue so a whole bracket would have to be built raising the trolley above that. It would still be easier to lift to, but a bit of work to Fab. Also, it would mean you couldn't check the oil on the chipper without unloading the trolley.
 
Evan Sussman said:
This is how the arbor trolley rides. Normally there are 6-8 Alterna mats just behind the arbor trolley along that catwalk.

It's ideal in that it was unused space and it's always with us. It's not ideal that it's kind of awkward to have to lift it above that diagonal bar and not scratch the bucket truck with the top of the stake pockets as your lowering it on and off.

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Consider a simple, hinged 'jib' off the side of the cab protector. Pulley on the end that attaches at the front end of the basket. Looks like you need about 1.5 vertical lift, swing out, and lower. A One- person job.
 
tc262 said:
@Evan Sussman Id set that diagonal bar up with two pins so you could tilt it out of the way or remove it completely for loading and unloading the trolley. Looks from the pic like it's just an additional support and not entirely needed.
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Great idea. I assumed it was important to keep this brace tight, at least so it doesn't rattle.

I'm leaning towards Sean's jib idea since I could leave that brace solid, and it takes the lifting out of the equation. Having the brace out of the way would make a huge difference in being less awkward, but it's still a pretty good lift. Requires quite the low squat.
 
Evan that brace is only to keep the cage from rocking while your driving. If it rocked all 4 legs would be compromised at the welds where they are attached to the truck. This is why it's only bolted on. If it was structural it would be welded. Even if it was structural it could be pinned. Drag car cages are very structural as they are attached to the frame to keep the frame ridged as well as PPE. Some are pinned on the diagonal brace for driver entry.
You could also move yours next to the turret mount but I like it where it is.
 
96coal449 said:
Evan that brace is only to keep the cage from rocking while your driving. If it rocked all 4 legs would be compromised at the welds where they are attached to the truck. This is why it's only bolted on. If it was structural it would be welded. Even if it was structural it could be pinned. Drag car cages are very structural as they are attached to the frame to keep the frame ridged as well as PPE. Some are pinned on the diagonal brace for driver entry.
You could also move yours next to the turret mount but I like it where it is.
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Makes sense. I'll look into this too since both ideas together would be super slick, and as a temporary fix the brace would certainly be easier to accomplish.

What's your name 96?

Thanks!
 
Evan Sussman said:
Makes sense. I'll look into this too since both ideas together would be super slick, and as a temporary fix the brace would certainly be easier to accomplish.

What's your name 96?

Thanks!
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Your most welcome Evan. Don't forget to thank tc ..... his idea in the 1st place.
Hope it works out for you. My name is Craig.
 
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