SRT Tie Ins

Tr33Climb3r

Tr33Climb3r

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Not sure if this has been mentioned before.

I did a smaller maple prune a couple of days ago and when I got to my tie in point I trusted it but wanted to add a little more security to it. Below is a picture of said tie in point. Now I had a base tie off so the weight on the branch union was 2x.

Picture 1:

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Now I added more security to the limb by wrapping the rope around itself and wanted to make sure it was still easier to pull the rope out so I wrapped the working end over the top of the line that goes down to the base. In the picture it shows one wrap but it was more like two. Any ways I left just a little slack in the rope that goes down to the base tie.

Picture 2:

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This would reduce the 2x on the tie in point to something under 2x right? But the nice thing is you still have the base tie. Only thing to think about is will you still be able to be lowered to the ground?

I see this working well if you plan on using a single tie in point for the entire climb like a did. I guess I would just like to open this to other tie in point techniques.
 

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I like to take a biner and just clip the two legs of rope on either side of redirect.

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Good idea.

We might call that a 'soft choke'...or??? 'biner choke'???
 
I've seen Kevin's biner trick, definitely one to keep in the tool bag.

As for your trick Casey, I like to just run it through multiple limbs and crotches to help distribute the load. I did a big Oak recently where I ran it through 3 or 4 crotches so I could distribute the load between the various limbs before selecting my final tie in. The only issue here is you get a lot of what I call 'limb stretch' where the rope can pull the limbs/tops together when you're up in the tops and the limbs bend more. The rope just kinda pulls them all together if you get my meaning, so when you sit back in the saddle you can sometimes have 2-3ft of sit back in the rope before it holds all your weight and you become stationary.
 
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I like to take a biner and just clip the two legs of rope on either side of redirect.

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Trying to picture this, but can't. What keep the rope from sliding down the legs, and how is it retrieved?
 
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Or...just spiral the rope around the trunk and eliminate the rope crossing issues. I think that the same result can be attained.

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Yea Tom after looking at my video I spiraled the rope. I thought I crossed it over.

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I like to take a biner and just clip the two legs of rope on either side of redirect.

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And I remember this trick that you showed. I haven't tried it yet. I more or less didn't like hanging on just that one branch that went off to the right. So I spiraled the rope and after climbing awhile I notice that the down rope to the base tie was significantly looser. So I thought why not post my findings.

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As for your trick Casey, I like to just run it through multiple limbs and crotches to help distribute the load. I did a big Oak recently where I ran it through 3 or 4 crotches so I could distribute the load between the various limbs before selecting my final tie in. The only issue here is you get a lot of what I call 'limb stretch' where the rope can pull the limbs/tops together when you're up in the tops and the limbs bend more. The rope just kinda pulls them all together if you get my meaning, so when you sit back in the saddle you can sometimes have 2-3ft of sit back in the rope before it holds all your weight and you become stationary.

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I know what you mean by running through multiple crotches but with this smaller maple there was no need for that. I could just reach all my points with one tie in. So I spiraled the rope actually.

I know what you mean with sit back. Has happened to me a few times. But I noticed that with all of your redirects if you have one a decent amount higher than all the other ones there is less.


Thanks guys for not tearing me apart. Just something I came across the other day climbing and thought why not post it.
 
This post made me think it might be wise for even SRT practitioners to use cambium saving devices in the trees they prune using base ties?
Jomoco
 
Kevin do you have trouble with the biner sliding? I think if it was a major problem you could use a small prussik on the working side to the biner and still have lowering ability in emergency.
 
Jomoco, yes you are right. Both tube types and ring types can be used and should be on some trees. For the carabiner to slide, the lines have to be perfectly parallel, which can happen but is rare
 
I usually use a non locking, non important biner that I dont mind crashing to the ground. It is not a life support biner. just a friction adding biner. really helps to limit limb stretch as ranger danger called it.
 
I know that biner isn't life support and if it were to break you'd still be on the limb but, it just doesn't interface well for the application. what about putting a twist in the line instead? A shackle might work/look better. I know I'm knit picking but, I can't help it.
 
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