Sprout #1

[guymayor]

per the "Sucker" thread, here's an epicormic on a declining q phellos. The brown streak is associated with a bug hole, per dendro "stubborn streaks". (black streaks being typically fungal). not a 100% association, but close enough for starters.

There are so many different types of sprouts!

 

[fireaxe]

I was running an estimate yesterday and came across a peculiar situation on a linden. I will get a picture of it when we go back to do the work next week. I intend to pull a few samples and throw them under a microscope. One dead vertical water sprout that is about a 1/2 inch at attachment in a year about 2 feet away from a more "normal" looking sprout with only slightly elevated length. Liontailing job.

 

[just_a_tree_guy]

sprout or better yet .. SHOOT... growth is probably a reponse to the quote bug hole . i always see this epicormic growth on topped trees , damaged trees and over excessive prune jobs .

 

[guymayor]

"Shoot" a good synonym imo; bug imo made hole at fold in tissue (tree self-wounding) at a node; not sure the association is causal or even more than coincidence. but i was too close so the focus sux; sorryboutdat

 

[just_a_tree_guy]

good stuff guy . always like your post !!!!

 

[wulkowicz]

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per the "Sucker" thread, here's an epicormic on a declining q phellos. The brown streak is associated with a bug hole, per dendro "stubborn streaks". (black streaks being typically fungal). not a 100% association, but close enough for starters.

<u>There are so many different types of sprouts!</u>

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Before we get started, we can call a vehicle, either a car or an automobile--and agree that they're the same. But if you then talk about a Cadillac while I talk about a Kia--how is that discussion going to progress?

Can we go to something more fundamental than a condition with an association?

A woody cylinder with xylem, cambium and phloem, perhaps?



bob

 

[guymayor]

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Before we get started, we can call a vehicle, either a car or an automobile--and agree that they're the same. But if you then talk about a Cadillac while I talk about a Kia--how is that discussion going to progress?


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Thank you Bob for making my point. The discussion would go nowhere fast, if we begin with "All sprouts above ground are water sprouts." kind of like saying all humans are Huguenots.

We can only guess the cause of the stem sprout--other epi's are popping out unrelated to nodes or bug holes. But the treatment is to avoid damaging it while deadwooding the (severely declining) tree.

Here's another type of sprout, originating below wounds made by imo inattentive personnel when they whacked two shoots that grew below a severely cankered dogwood stem, on the right. On the left appear to be two young stems that arose in response to that same canker, and were spared the woodsman's ax.
Anyway, I'd let em be until sprouting slowed, then thin to train new branches/stems. 1/3 at a time is a good starting point for planning.

 

[theXman]

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Before we get started, we can call a vehicle, either a car or an automobile--and agree that they're the same. But if you then talk about a Cadillac while I talk about a Kia--how is that discussion going to progress?


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Thank you Bob for making my point. The discussion would go nowhere fast, if we begin with "All sprouts above ground are water sprouts." kind of like saying all humans are Huguenots.



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Well, excuse me.

People were using the term "suckers"

Are everything above the root collar sprouts then? That's what I was getting at.

sorry for the "water" part.

 

[guymayor]

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Well, excuse me. People were using the term "suckers"
Are everything above the root collar sprouts then? That's what I was getting at. sorry for the "water" part.

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X, no disagreements with that. The main thing is, we know that trees send up sprouts for many reasons, and there have to be many strategies for managing them, depending on the objective.