well, I guess I'm part of the "hack" community then. If I didn't spike the trees I trim I would be out of a job. I would lose my job because I would not get nearly enough done in a day to make my employer happy. Line clearance guys have to get a certain amount of spans a day to keep the bosses happy. To be clear I DO NOT spike yard trees, or thing in a customers groomed areas, but in a ROW I don't have time to set a line for every trim. how many trims do you residential guys do a day? I have had to do 40. in 10 hours. I would love to be able to take my time, but I wouldn't be around for long if I did. I'm not trying to attack res. guys, but you have to understand that our jobs as clearance workers are sometimes very different from what you encounter.
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I've always felt that crotch selection, and line setting, and then climbing is one of the riskiest parts of tree work. I recommend that binoculars be used to verify the integrity of the line set, as well as always testing by bouncing on the line, preferably with another person helping.
Tree Barber, welcome to da Buzz...I think I know of you through an online referral service that we both use.
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I've been using binos for that very purpose and they are indispensible for inspecting trees before climbing. I agree that selecting a safe TIP and getting a rope in it is a crucial step... nothing more disconcerting than going 50 feet or so in mid-air only to find your rope wasn't actually where you thought it was.
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I've always felt that crotch selection, and line setting, and then climbing is one of the riskiest parts of tree work. I recommend that binoculars be used to verify the integrity of the line set, as well as always testing by bouncing on the line, preferably with another person helping.
Tree Barber, welcome to da Buzz...I think I know of you through an online referral service that we both use.
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I've been using binos for that very purpose and they are indispensible for inspecting trees before climbing. I agree that selecting a safe TIP and getting a rope in it is a crucial step... nothing more disconcerting than going 50 feet or so in mid-air only to find your rope wasn't actually where you thought it was.
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... nothing more disconcerting than going 50 feet or so in mid-air only to find your rope wasn't actually where you thought it was.
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I agree with that!!!!!!!!
I think I’m a little more conservative than most in what I would trust as a strong enough limb to hold my 230lb butt.
Roger, thanks for the welcome. We have meet (at the Sequim logging show) but I don’t know about the online referral service.
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... nothing more disconcerting than going 50 feet or so in mid-air only to find your rope wasn't actually where you thought it was.
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I agree with that!!!!!!!!
I think I’m a little more conservative than most in what I would trust as a strong enough limb to hold my 230lb butt.
Roger, thanks for the welcome. We have meet (at the Sequim logging show) but I don’t know about the online referral service.
Pat..
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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well, I guess I'm part of the "hack" community then. If I didn't spike the trees I trim I would be out of a job. I would lose my job because I would not get nearly enough done in a day to make my employer happy. Line clearance guys have to get a certain amount of spans a day to keep the bosses happy. To be clear I DO NOT spike yard trees, or thing in a customers groomed areas, but in a ROW I don't have time to set a line for every trim. how many trims do you residential guys do a day? I have had to do 40. in 10 hours. I would love to be able to take my time, but I wouldn't be around for long if I did. I'm not trying to attack res. guys, but you have to understand that our jobs as clearance workers are sometimes very different from what you encounter.
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To me, ROW clearance work seems like a tough gig for all the reasons you mention. I respect what you do, it's not hack work. It would be nice if you could use rope or bucket access on the trees you do... and maybe, given the choice, you would. But your employer is your customer and we all do what our customers pay us to do.
Four trees an hour... man, that's really cooking even on gaffs.
well, I guess I'm part of the "hack" community then. If I didn't spike the trees I trim I would be out of a job. I would lose my job because I would not get nearly enough done in a day to make my employer happy. Line clearance guys have to get a certain amount of spans a day to keep the bosses happy. To be clear I DO NOT spike yard trees, or thing in a customers groomed areas, but in a ROW I don't have time to set a line for every trim. how many trims do you residential guys do a day? I have had to do 40. in 10 hours. I would love to be able to take my time, but I wouldn't be around for long if I did. I'm not trying to attack res. guys, but you have to understand that our jobs as clearance workers are sometimes very different from what you encounter.
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To me, ROW clearance work seems like a tough gig for all the reasons you mention. I respect what you do, it's not hack work. It would be nice if you could use rope or bucket access on the trees you do... and maybe, given the choice, you would. But your employer is your customer and we all do what our customers pay us to do.
Four trees an hour... man, that's really cooking even on gaffs.
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What kind of pruning is necessary on a tree with 2 inch or less only branches
Throw lines set from opposing sides of the tree isolated over small branches would allow the rope to be set around the stem itself. If its small and short(where you are, not often likely maybe) use an extention ladder to reach the first limbs if you don't trust them to hold safely. Seems like if its big enough to need pruning it'llhave branches large enough to sat a line on. Usually...
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building clearence, cabling codom stems. i have on rare occasion spured conifers that had small or down turned limbs
What kind of pruning is necessary on a tree with 2 inch or less only branches
Throw lines set from opposing sides of the tree isolated over small branches would allow the rope to be set around the stem itself. If its small and short(where you are, not often likely maybe) use an extention ladder to reach the first limbs if you don't trust them to hold safely. Seems like if its big enough to need pruning it'llhave branches large enough to sat a line on. Usually...
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building clearence, cabling codom stems. i have on rare occasion spured conifers that had small or down turned limbs
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To me, ROW clearance work seems like a tough gig for all the reasons you mention. I respect what you do, it's not hack work. It would be nice if you could use rope or bucket access on the trees you do... and maybe, given the choice, you would. But your employer is your customer and we all do what our customers pay us to do.
Four trees an hour... man, that's really cooking even on gaffs.
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Perhaps I should clarify. I didn't have to spike ALL the trees in that span. Some were done with a hanger pole/pole saw(or snip pole) from the next tree over. IE, I'm standing on gaffs in one tree, and with the poles I can trim 2 or 3 trees. I was flying that day. I was Pissed off at something or other, and I find I'm sometimes more productive(though likely less safe) on days like that.
To me, ROW clearance work seems like a tough gig for all the reasons you mention. I respect what you do, it's not hack work. It would be nice if you could use rope or bucket access on the trees you do... and maybe, given the choice, you would. But your employer is your customer and we all do what our customers pay us to do.
Four trees an hour... man, that's really cooking even on gaffs.
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Perhaps I should clarify. I didn't have to spike ALL the trees in that span. Some were done with a hanger pole/pole saw(or snip pole) from the next tree over. IE, I'm standing on gaffs in one tree, and with the poles I can trim 2 or 3 trees. I was flying that day. I was Pissed off at something or other, and I find I'm sometimes more productive(though likely less safe) on days like that.
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