Snap hook safety warning from ISA

[Zac]

http://itcc.isa-arbor.com/rules-scoring/...Competitors.pdf

I agree with this warning, some of these snaps are really easy to open. Really easy.

 

[JesseHuffman]

Yikes, I use the one in the middle and its never given me a problem.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Which ones are allowed?

At one time there were some locking snaps that could unlock with certain size/configuration D-rings.

 

[Zac]

it doesn't sound like they are disallowing any of them in particular, just the head judge's discretion.

I like the red or blue snaps that you can't find anymore with no manufacturer information.

 

[PUClimber]

The ones where the issue is, would be the kongs and the ISC ones that have the openings shaped like carabiners.

 

[BayouClimber]

i have the isc one on my lanyard so what is the big issue with them i dont do comps so should i change it to c captive biner?

 

[Waldo]

where can i find that one on the left? it looks sick.
but i totatly agree with those being unsafe, i have changed to a karabiner because the gate of the kong snap hook opened whilst i was hanging from it.

 

[PUClimber]

I use the other two snaps not the one on the left though. I love them and they do open and close easy and they're light weight. That's what I love about them. I know a lot of guys going to the biners.

 

[rangerdanger]

I use the one on the right. The very reason I love it is because of how easy it opens. It makes for an easy connect/disconnect in those tight situations.

 

[Rookieclimber]

Never had a prob with the one I got on my 10 mm beeline and trango cinch lanyard

 

[Blinky]

I like CT aluminum snaps.

 

[goodaking]

I' have the one on the right and love it, Nice and light. should i switch to something else

 

[davej]

They say they are particularly worried about the snaps with a "carabiner style frame." Now why would that be?

 

[carya]

Iuse the far right one or something very nearly like it.Mine has unexpectedly opened afew times,I think because the locking lever (?)on the back side has a lot of surface to come in contact w/anything,trip that and "Open Sesame"But I love it,light,quick,comfy to my big paw.But what of the shape of the frame?Iused biners for years and switched and never noticed a diff. in shape between them for better or worse.But would like one w/a smaller l.l.,and a keyhole catch between the gate and frame. I just keep an eye on it.It's better to squeeze than twist.Just my opinion.

 

[Blinky]

It sounds like this warning is based strictly on discussion, not an incident... that bugs me. Not that I want someone to get hurt before a safety warning is issued... but this smacks of a bunch of people without enough to do trying to justify a paycheck... or maybe selling more locking biners.

I know people that were trained to always use a snap with the gate facing out... I'm not sure why. But anyway, that's a recipe for accidentally opening an advanced (biner style) snap.

I like the ISC snap BECAUSE it is easy to open.

 

[Jamin_Mayer]

I've got the one in the middle also. I retired it a while back. I didn't like how easy it was to open.

I like snaps in the winter and biners in the warmer months.

 

[Waldo]

i had one come open on me in a tree, i didnt go for a ride it just scared the piss out of me because that was the only thing connecting me to the tree at the time. Thats why i dont use them.

 

[McTree]

I've been told in a climbing school to use a snap hook for my lanyard rather than a biner. Especially they didn't like twist-lock biners.

Will see if I can upload a picture

Tom

(Picture is from www.grube.de)

 

[marlinspiker]

ISC just came out with a 3 way locking snap. it looks pretty snazzy.

 

[Tr33Climb3r]

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ISC just came out with a 3 way locking snap. it looks pretty snazzy.

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got a link?