Silky Pole saws n/a ?!?!

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Apparently (according to person I chatted with on Sherrill's website) (and according to the lack of availability) Silky has decided to no longer offer their pole saws in North America!

That just about ruined my day. Notch has some saws with Silky blades so hopefully they will fill that niche.
 
Lame, huh? I’ve been on the fence about buying one for years now, and looks like someone made up my mind for me.
Some of the Notch poles do look nice but I’ll probably pass and just keep on with my Jameson poles.

Any reputable overseas vendor is probably gonna charge heavily to ship something like that, but do post about it if you hear differently.
 
Will do. Likewise, if anybody finds them in stock somewhere, post them here please! I've looked at:
Treestuff
Sherrill
Midwest Arborist Supply
Wesspur
Shelter Tree
Bartlett
Gap
Baileys
Am Leonard
Amazon
EBay

The absolute lack of inventory anywhere: Did somebody buy them all out, did Silky take them back, or was this decision made a long time ago and I'm just figuring it out???

I don't need one now...in fact, I shouldn't be spending the money...but if there is one for a reasonable price, I'd probably buy a 20' Hayate.
 
I hope I’m not wrong and starting vicious rumors, but wasn’t Sherrill the only importer for Silky saws in North America? Every other arb supply vendor in the US and Canada gets their Silkys through them, right?
 
I hope I’m not wrong and starting vicious rumors, but wasn’t Sherrill the only importer for Silky saws in North America? Every other arb supply vendor in the US and Canada gets their Silkys through them, right?
Something like that, yes. Not sure if that is still the case or not.
 
Yes, Sherrill is the US distributor of Silky. No, if anyone is wondering, Sherrill did not restrict access to silky poles. Silky stopped selling their aluminum poles due to liability concerns (conductivity).
 
Thanks for the info @Crimsonking - with that liability concern, does that mean they pulled them from retailers? I would have thought somebody would have still had one sitting around.

At least parts are still available (for now) so I can keep mine going for a while longer. Look forward to Notch (or somebody) stepping up their game to become the new "gold standard" for telescoping pole saws.
 
Thanks for the info @Crimsonking - with that liability concern, does that mean they pulled them from retailers? I would have thought somebody would have still had one sitting around.

At least parts are still available (for now) so I can keep mine going for a while longer. Look forward to Notch (or somebody) stepping up their game to become the new "gold standard" for telescoping pole saws.
They didn’t pull, that I know of, but their saws are so sought after that I imagine inventories emptied quickly. I was so sad not to snag a longboy. Best overall setup for compact storage.

If you like silky’s poles, Notch’s poles shouldn’t disappoint. I’ve fiddled around with them and can’t tell a real difference, aside from no longboy replacement :(
 
They didn’t pull, that I know of, but their saws are so sought after that I imagine inventories emptied quickly. I was so sad not to snag a longboy. Best overall setup for compact storage.

If you like silky’s poles, Notch’s poles shouldn’t disappoint. I’ve fiddled around with them and can’t tell a real difference, aside from no longboy replacement :(
Can we put Silky blades on a Notch pole?
 
I'm suspicious of the idea that this was a liability concern. Step back and take a look at all of the other tools that we use that might be involved in an accident. Ropes...chainsaws...handsaws...non-chin strap helmets...on and on. Our profession is in what place on the OSHA list of most deadly? Where does direct contact from conductive pole tools come in on Dr. John Ball's List?

BTW...I only hold onto one Conspiracy Theory...Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't the Lone Gunman...LOL
 
I have no trouble at all believing it was a liability issue. The clear and obvious danger of using an aluminum pole in close proximity to wires is why we stopped using them. Clearing limbs around wires is something that gets done on an almost daily basis. If it is the tool you have and need, it is the one you will use, wires or not.

The blue B-light poles work just as well with far less built in danger.
 
You have to see it from silky’s perspective- they don’t make saddles, carabiners, or other life rated components. Their coverage is not in that sector. Conductive poles is a huge liability for a company that deals in basically garden tools. Tom, I’d be happy to connect you to the people involved if you’d like to hear it straight from the source.
 
I'm sure it has happened...I'd be shocked ( :rolleyes: )if it hasn't. But the bigger question is: have they been sued? Have they been found liable? Not surprised at all that a manufacturer is concerned with liability. Heck, Lowe's lost a suit a few years ago because 2x4s were not actually 2" x 4".
 
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I'm sure it has happened...I'd be shocked ( :rolleyes: )if it hasn't. But the bigger question is: have the been sued? Have they been found liable? Not surprised at all that a manufacturer is concerned with liability. Heck, Lowe's lost a suit a few years ago because 2x4s were not actually 2" x 4".
I’m sure it’s happened too, and I can understand their fears if liability is indeed their concern. Anyone remember the nut that spilled their McDonald’s coffee in their lap and won a lawsuit against McDonald’s because they weren’t warned that hot coffee could burn them?
 
Anyone remember the nut that spilled their McDonald’s coffee in their lap and won a lawsuit against McDonald’s because they weren’t warned that hot coffee could burn them?

Unfortunately, this is a lie people still believe as a result of a massive smear campaign, corporate manipulation of news and misunderstanding of the law. The story is far more complex than presented most of the time and is a good example of big business using its power to attack every day people instead of admit its own responsibility.

(but Silky pole saws are awesome and I'm sad to see them go)


Stella Liebeck, 79-years-old, was sitting in the passenger seat of her grandson’s car having purchased a cup of McDonald’s coffee. After the car stopped, she tried to hold the cup securely between her knees while removing the lid. However, the cup tipped over, pouring scalding hot coffee onto her lap. She received third-degree burns over 16 percent of her body, necessitating hospitalization for eight days, whirlpool treatment for debridement of her wounds, skin grafting, scarring, and disability for more than two years.

Despite these extensive injuries, she offered to settle with McDonald’s for $20,000. However, McDonald’s refused to settle for this small amount and, in fact, never offered more than $800. The jury awarded Liebeck $200,000 in compensatory damages — reduced to $160,000 because the jury found her 20 percent at fault — and $2.7 million in punitive damages for McDonald’s callous conduct. (To put this in perspective, McDonald’s revenue from coffee sales alone was in excess of $1.3 million a day.) The trial judge reduced the punitive damages to $480,000, but did state that McDonald’s had engaged in “willful, wanton, and reckless” behavior. Mrs. Liebeck and McDonald’s eventually settled for a confidential amount. The jury heard the following evidence in the case:

  • McDonald’s Operations Manual required the franchisee to hold its coffee at 180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit;
  • Coffee at that temperature, if spilled, causes third-degree burns (the worst kind of burn) in three to seven seconds;
  • Third-degree burns do not heal without skin grafting, debridement and whirlpool treatments that cost tens of thousands of dollars and result in permanent disfigurement, extreme pain and disability of the victim for many months, and in some cases, years;
  • The chairman of the department of mechanical engineering and bio-mechanical engineering at the University of Texas testified that this risk of harm is unacceptable, as did a widely recognized expert on burns, the editor in chief of the leading scholarly publication in the specialty, the Journal of Burn Care and Rehabilitation;
  • McDonald’s admitted that it has known about the risk of serious burns from its scalding hot coffee for more than 10 years — the risk was brought to its attention through numerous other claims and suits, to no avail;
  • From 1982 to 1992, McDonald’s coffee burned more than 700 people, many receiving severe burns to the genital area, perineum, inner thighs, and buttocks;
  • Not only men and women, but also children and infants, have been burned by McDonald’s scalding hot coffee, in some instances due to inadvertent spillage by McDonald’s employees;
  • McDonald’s admitted at trial that its coffee is “not fit for consumption” when sold because it causes severe scalds if spilled or drunk;
  • McDonald’s admitted at trial that consumers are unaware of the extent of the risk of serious burns from spilled coffee served at McDonald’s then required temperature;
  • McDonald’s admitted that it did not warn customers of the nature and extent of this risk and could offer no explanation as to why it did not;
  • Liebeck’s treating physician testified that her injury was one of the worst scald burns he had ever seen.
  • McDonald’s did a survey of other coffee establishments in the area, and found that coffee at other places was between 30-40 degrees cooler.
 
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Unfortunately, this is a lie people still believe as a result of a massive smear campaign, corporate manipulation of news and misunderstanding of the law. The story is far more complex than presented most of the time and is a good example of big business using its power to attack every day people instead of admit its own responsibility.

(but Silky pole saws are awesome and I'm sad to see them go)

I'm not seeing a difference in the stories... Where is the "lie"?

I think the point is corporations are (rightfully) leery of massive lawsuits that result from consumer misuse of their products. Silky already has warning stickers on their poles. Is that enough to protect them? McDonald's hasn't changed the temperature of their coffee (it still falls within "industry norms") but they labeled the cup. They still get sued. Even if they win every one of those, it still costs them to defend those and there is no shortage of personal injury lawyers willing to take a plaintiff's money to try to score big.
 

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