Crazy_Jimmy
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I guess thats an old picture I dont really keep much on my saddle , except a loop runner with a caribiner
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You're not alone...waving my Petzl flag proudly.
It's great to see all of these harnesses laid out, but I'm curious...what's the rhyme or reason behind the way you have yours (general term, no one specific) set up? I know this all comes down to personal preference, but what preference dictates where you hang certain critical tools? Speedline straps, we all hang wherever's handy because they generally won't stay there for long, etc., but things like Handsaws, lanyards, etc. all tend to find a place for a reason. I've noticed that most comp climbers tend to keep their lanyard adjusters on the left, while most working climber setups I'm seeing here show adjusters on the right. I've often assumed comp climbers stayed left so they could have a hand on each tail or hitch easily, but technically your climb line is centered so you can do that from either side, so I've never quite mentally figured out that trend.
I should have my current setup photographed and posted tomorrow, so I'll expand on a few of my own personal tweaks/preferences, but in the meantime...one, two, ready...discuss?
Visual aid:Okay, I think it comes down to where you hang your saw...at least for me. I am right handed and like my saw on the right. Not wanting my lanyard tangled in my saw I hang that on my left. I also feel my right hand is better at opening gates while either hand can work the adjuster. I don't like tangles and sudden yanks, so I put my lanyard in a bag and I tie my loop runners up and keep them hidden under my lanyard bag. I hang what's left spread out along the back, with the stuff I don't use as much closer to the center. I like climbing with a 20'+ lanyard, because I treat it like a second line a lot of the time. Also then there is enough room for 2 in 1 function. Furthermore, I always keep the back end of my lanyard clipped to a Dee. I think that goes back to when I used a simple rope grab that had a tiny wire to keep the grab from pulling through, and I alway backed it up by making sure I would still be caught by the two ends of my lanyard if the grab failed.
How about hot muffler Mac?I keep the chainsaw on the right/ toward the back. I am a lefty, but that's not the approved hand to use so... Lanyard is on the right as well toward the front. Hang the saw from the top handle with a scabbard on, tangles not really an issue. Keep the handsaw on my leg. Everything else is just down to where it fits.
Plus you're running batteries theses days ;-)I hang my saw on either side which ever is the most convenient I guess . Never really notice hot mufflers these days , but I remember when I started back in the day having saws with no muffler guards , sizzle
Looks good! How's the updated Sequoia treating you?Great points.
Alrighty, here we go. This is a very bare-bones setup I climb on most often, which is geared towards trimming. Very handsaw-specific.
On the right, I stow my flipline, which is 12' of Luna on a Zillon adjuster. It is my humble opinion that the RE Pirate is the fastest/smoothest operating carabiner out there, and the RE gates in general follow suit, so all of my lockers are Rock Exotica; Pirates on the flipline, O's on the climbing system, and a D for Redirects. My flipline is stowed with a few lanyard manager clips (don't knock it til you try it...they're fantastic) and the end clips into a small Caritool on my right hip, which is also where my chainsaw hangs. Quick tip: I clip my flipline termination OVER the saw, so there's never a possibility that I will get lazy and cut without my second tie-in...flipline has to come off first.
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Left side is where I stow tools; my snake tail redirect system, with a double pulley and a rated wiregate biner, all red so they are easily identified (from the ground if necessary), then there are two spare biners and an eye2eye, a leatherman biner knife, and a Sikly saw clip sewed into a carabiner tunnel. This keeps it up a little higher so the handle of my Sugoi doesn't work its way through the large caritool on the left him, and keeps it from swinging/tangling as much. The Sugoi doesn't always come along, though...that's for larger pruning.
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You may have noticed the back loops are empty...I keep them available for a few speedline straps, etc., but I like leaving them empty. When I turn sideways to pass between close branches, not having tools across my back keeps me from snagging. I keep everything out to my hips, and the back wide open for the chainsaw bridge I've installed using a few 400lb wll hardware store shackles and a spare Sequoia bridge.
On the front, I've got some tools on the legs where Petzl was kind enough to not include any carriage options...but if you put a straight-backed carabiner through the middle of a pile of webbing straps, stowing an oft-used micro pulley up front like this makes it very quick to access. On the other leg, I have another Silky saw clip, where my smaller saw (Gomtaro) hangs in a quick-to-hand spot on the right. I never really liked strapping the saw to my leg, but didn't like how high it was when hung off the saddle belt, so this was a compromise I've come to love.
Lastly, my bridge ring has a second (Petzl open) ring running at odds to the first. My flipline doesn't have a becket like you pinto-users, so running the flipline off my bridge requires two carabiners, and, like many of you, I don't like the bridge being pulled at two points at once, so the lifeline stays on the small ring on the bridge, while I can double-crotch with my flipline on the horizontal secondary ring. Planning to replace the smaller ring with a swivel so I can spin under all that, but the second ring will definitely stay...I love it.
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I've got plans to add a roll-n-lock to the bridge, and so much more (as do we all), but I'm very pleased with how this works for me. I carry a grigri on occasion to SRT/RADS off of a pontyail on the opposite side of a tree, short-term, as well as a few other toys, but that's pretty well it.
I left the old Sequoia in search for more comfort with saw weight and went to the Treemotion. Petzl, shortly after that, updated the Sequoia exactly the way I would have suggested. I'm happy with the TM but have always thought the new Sequoia looked sweet. Thanks for the review!I talked to Jared Abrojena about his adjustable bridge at an SRT workshop, and he noted that it can creep a touch at certain angles, so he's got the spare rope daisy chained behind it to add a little resistance. I don't want a bridge that long anyway, but I think I'll still hold out for the rollnlock. Something to note...the stock bridge was a little long for my tastes...Jared hooked me up with the shorter replacement bridge, so the stock bridge is the one running across the back for the chainsaw...the length there is perfect to connect those two loops which (I *think*) are for attaching shoulder straps, if you had the SRT version's front connection.
Sequoia is fantastic...love it. I spent a lot of time on challenge course in a Falcon II, so it just seemed the natural progression. Half of my gear already played nicely with the Petzl tunnels, etc., so I couldn't say no. Super comfy. I wouldn't necessarily say the SRT version is worth the extra few bucks...SRT is moving steadily away from needing a chest ascender, so I wouldn't bother. I'm glad I didn't...I prefer the fast buckle across the front to a step-through waist.
Lastly, my bridge ring has a second (Petzl open) ring running at odds to the first. My flipline doesn't have a becket like you pinto-users, so running the flipline off my bridge requires two carabiners, and, like many of you, I don't like the bridge being pulled at two points at once, so the lifeline stays on the small ring on the bridge, while I can double-crotch with my flipline on the horizontal secondary ring. Planning to replace the smaller ring with a swivel so I can spin under all that, but the second ring will definitely stay...I love it.
Hahaha, this belongs in that Jeff Foxworthy thread: If you have a perpetually full cart on TS, you might be a part (full) time arborist.I love the second ring opposed option, putting an Open Ring on my TS order.
I think their web site says stuff will stay in your cart for 30 days...never made it that long. Lol.Hahaha, this belongs in that Jeff Foxworthy thread: If you have a perpetually full cart on TS, you might be a part (full) time arborist.
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