Show off them splices

[Jimmycrackcorn]

Ok.. right on.. I'll try that next time.. last night i snapped my wire fid trying to put it core back in crappy eye i had made.. (big eye).. cheap metal..

What i did this time was just leave the core in & start the core removal at mark B.. pulled a bloom & cut it.. then i went back & pulled it out from Mark A to tail end result in the core being intact within the eye.. Looking back i think fishing would have been easier.. i was making a Friction saver so things were a bit weird for me being careful manipullating the core & trying not to pull it out from the X-over on the other side of the saver.. I'm sure there was an easier way to complete this thing with shorter buries, x-overs, etc..

Brock... Is there any way to end up with just one crossover? Some way of passing/crossing everything right smack dab in the middle? If possible i believe it would have made this easier & i could have gone shorter overall..

I have an idea.. all specs get used but everything comes out at one x-over, two cores two covers, 4 exits, but in two spots using top & bottom of rope.. I know... Probably hard to follow.. I haven't tried it either..

 

[Brocky]

You could try inserting one or more plastic zip ties in the eye to stiffen it up. Cut to the size you need and round off the ends.

A short, double eye can be made by taking all the core out and use the tails from the two eyes for the crossover. The manufacturer's recommendations for bury lengths are best, don't know how much shorter you could go and still be safe.

Your last idea would probably work if you reduced the volume of each part by half in the crossover.

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

You could try inserting one or more plastic zip ties in the eye to stiffen it up. Cut to the size you need and round off the ends.

A short, double eye can be made by taking all the core out and use the tails from the two eyes for the crossover. The manufacturer's recommendations for bury lengths are best, don't know how much shorter you could go and still be safe.

Your last idea would probably work if you reduced the volume of each part by half in the crossover.

That's pure genuis Brock..lol!! I was going to try & shove a wire fid in there.. but thought it would pluck away where it was cut with dikes.. that or.. poke its way out.. The zippies are a great idea..!!

Wow... You actually followed my pshyco babble about the universal bury. Yes it would have to be thinned quite a but to make all the passing work out.

However.. i think i like what you suggested better.. i just wish I knew what was being lost with the core completely removed. It has to be losing something unless Spec'd MBS of it being spliced is exactly just that. I wonder.. if you removed the core & did a straight pull, if it would be the same..

So off topic question but not too far.. I just scored a deal on a Pinto Rig & Some DMM rings & was wondering what the easiest tech Cordage was to splice?

Santiago suggested Ocean to me the other day, but im not sure if the suggestion was out of ease to splice or for a performance stand point..

Regardless.. to push that order over 100 for free shipping, i ended up buying a little Tenex Tec & Beeline.. as i know there are videos available on them.. However, it was on a whim.. I know their good to have but I'm not sure if they are actually what i want on this project.. Besides the tenex, what's the easiest tech cordage to splice?

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[Brocky]

The 16 strand ropes are are considered cover dependent double braids. The core doesn't add much strength, but is used as a filler to help keep the rope round.

The Beeline splices as easily as the Tenex, except with the naked eye version, you add the cover after doing the splices.

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

The 16 strand ropes are are considered cover dependent double braids. The core doesn't add much strength, but is used as a filler to help keep the rope round.

The Beeline splices as easily as the Tenex, except with the naked eye version, you add the cover after doing the splices.

Well yeah.. i know that lol.. I get the filler aspect.. I'm just saying, i could most likley, tie that core off to my fat ass in my harness, bounce on it & I would bet, nothing would break.. so its gotta add at least another thousand pounds of breaking strength or so.. yeah.. no..? What you think?

8mm Beeline-
"Except with the naked eye version"..
Is there another way to do it where it isn't naked? I thought it was either that or sewn.

I did notice the 3/8ths is not recommended for splicing..

Is AllGear the only one who makes TVP? Technora Vectran Polyester?? Is that what it stands for?

 

[Santiago Casanova]

Well yeah.. i know that lol.. I get the filler aspect.. I'm just saying, i could most likley, tie that core off to my fat ass in my harness, bounce on it & I would bet, nothing would break.. so its gotta add at least another thousand pounds of breaking strength or so.. yeah.. no..? What you think?

8mm Beeline-
"Except with the naked eye version"..
Is there another way to do it where it isn't naked? I thought it was either that or sewn.

I did notice the 3/8ths is not recommended for splicing..

Is AllGear the only one who makes TVP? Technora Vectran Polyester?? Is that what it stands for?

Textured Vegetable Protein

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

Textured Vegetable Protein

Oh you got jokes today?

You know if All Gear is the only one having it made? Or is there another manufacturer that makes it.


Finished up the lanyard of this thing Saver thing I'm making.. kinda wish i hadn't put the ring on it but by doing so I'll be able to use both ends of it... Adjustable Ring & ring or Pully Saver on the other end. I just can't figure out whether i want to use it for light rigging or climbing.. have pinto rig coming..

Everything look legit??
Lock Stitch/Whipping?

 

[Brocky]

Just Allgear.

The 3/8 Beeline comes in two versions, you can splice the other kind. The cover looks more like the smaller Beeline.

With a little more work you can make the eyes covered, instead of naked.

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

See my last post.. finished part of that project y'all gave advice on..

Ok see there's two different 3/8ths beeline.. cool.. I'll read up on it. Do you concur with it's ease of splicing? I remember you had suggested ocean to me a few days back..

 

[Brocky]

That's my tag team partner that suggested that, probably since you were doing double braids. For me the locked brummels and buries are easier.

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

That's my tag team partner that suggested that, probably since you were doing double braids. For me the locked brummels and buries are easier.

My bad... i thought i was talking to Cassanova [emoji6].. that's why i asked that.

So other than that thing being wicked freaking long (didn't know the shorter version technique before starting). Does anything jump out at you.? Can it get the Brock Boss stamp of approval?



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[Jimmycrackcorn]

Looking for another approval stamp here..

Is there such a thing as having too tight of an eye? This thing is pretty tight..

Whiplocked

Green whip is the very first one from a few days ago, orange whip was last night.. one. Think I'm going to make short lanyard out of the orange end & I'm not sure about the other side..

What y'all want to see me do with it? Open to ideas trying to learn here..

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[JeffGu]

This thing is pretty tight...

That's what she said.

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

That's what she said.

Thaaaaaaats right buddy....
Tell me.. what's do those first two pictures look like..? Hahaha!

What you think.. those splices look good enough to climb on? Or maybe use as lanyard? I really need a adjustable friction saver for climbing.. i know just made one for light rigging but the survey says no to using it for both..

The thing is.. id go ahead & make what i need, i just don't know if i should be trusting my splices for suspending yet.. That last Tachyon one i did (orange whip) felt like it went really smooth, however i ended up trashing the one before that.. (big eye).

What i need is some feedback on the ones i just put up & an answer to a question i posted a few days back (yes I've said a ton since)..
The question is - When all done burying a large tachyon eye, should you be able to pull your bury back out by milking any tidbit of extra cover from crossover around & into the throat? Or, by bunching up the cover and sliding it down into throat? You know what i mean..? Like even if there is no extra bagginess, you can always scrunch it up & create it.. (This is the reason i trashed that last one i just couldnt get the extra bag out of it for the life of me, but looking back I'm not even sure there was any they're, i may have just been "creating it", either way by doing so i was able to milk/scrunch it around to throat & pull my bury out).

 

[JeffGu]

I have a hook in a beam in my garage that I use to test my splices. I hang from them and bounce around a bit then look them over. If they still look right and feel right, I climb on them.

I did break test some that I thought might be a little out of whack, but the rope always broke, not the splice. I figure, you follow the instructions and if they look and feel right after bouncing around on them, they're probably fine. I don't know what else you can do, really.

Where is @Worthaug when you need him?

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

I have a hook in a beam in my garage that I use to test my splices. I hang from them and bounce around a bit then look them over. If they still look right and feel right, I climb on them.

I did break test some that I thought might be a little out of whack, but the rope always broke, not the splice. I figure, you follow the instructions and if they look and feel right after bouncing around on them, they're probably fine. I don't know what else you can do, really.

Where is @Worthaug when you need him?

Cassanova & a few others have been a huge help to me.. i don't think they can keep up with all my posts.. ive been at it all week with different ropes & questions..

You know the thing is, I should have just bought the Snake Tail & a Rig Saver.. & learned how to splice over a reasonable timeframe... BUT... it was like... "Ok Jimmy, your either shitting $$ & paying through the ass for expensive rope tools... or your getting off the pot & learning how to splice.."
Yeah you could knot shit.. but.. idk.. I'm just not a big fan of it.. splicing is so much less bulk on you have to make room in your harness for.. I wouldn't mind knotting a pinto or something to be able to remove & keep versitile..

Yes, i have something as well in there as well.. i think we all do, we all have
some ghetto ass danglee doo something another in the garage.. I'm just waiting to pull the tiny rafter down on me..lol..

So.. anyhow.. you don't know the answer to that Jeff? Hence the reason your lighting up the Warthaug symbol? Lol..

 

[JeffGu]

I'm pretty new to splicing, myself... on and off for the last couple of years... some of these guys are very, very good at it. I usually think of @Worthaug first because... well, how can you not remember a name like that?

I'm with ya' on the splicing/knots thing, though... I really like the clean look and convenience of the spliced ropes. I like quick hardware connections and not having to explain (from up in a tree) how to tie a bowline to a guy on the ground who can barely tie his own shoelaces.

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

I'm pretty new to splicing, myself... on and off for the last couple of years... some of these guys are very, very good at it. I usually think of @Worthaug first because... well, how can you not remember a name like that?

I'm with ya' on the splicing/knots thing, though... I really like the clean look and convenience of the spliced ropes. I like quick hardware connections and not having to explain (from up in a tree) how to tie a bowline to a guy on the ground who can barely tie his own shoelaces.

Oh i gotcha.. I just got my training wheels....

Yes. I concur with everything you just said.. lol.

Say.. do you know if a whiplock is ok for tachyon? I keep seeing a different variant of it.. a style with straight lines going up & down the whipping. I followed the instructions on where to do it, but just used Yales method..

 

[JeffGu]

Should be fine. Looks nice.

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

Good.. I wasn't looking forward to doing it over..