Short Rope Length?

[Reach]

Ten points if it makes a loud thud off his helmet!

How many points for a broken nose or shattered eye socket?

 

[Reach]

I've had to throw to someone stuck in a lift about 50' up and I knew someone who was stuck in a boom at 70' but refused to rappel out. But your scenario had me wondering - what's the highest someone has encountered a hornet's nest?

I’ve had to use the emergency lowering valves to lower someone in a lift, twice that I can recall in about 14 years working with them. Never had anyone rappel out, but now that I say it, I’ll probably have to this week!

 

[Jonny]

How many points for a broken nose or shattered eye socket?

Negative points! Negative dollars too I reckon.

 

[Crimsonking]

This is a good topic that has been on my mind after lots of crane work lately..... I get that rope length varies greatly by species/part of the world your working in etc. A couple weeks ago I had a whole day of crane removals, mostly two pic pines. It was super annoying having to fly with a whole bag of 150’ rope, and to re stuff it between each tree.... for me in Colorado I think I’m going to get a 75-80’ piece to keep on hand for these situations.

Have you tried clipping your system to your helmet strap and pulling the tail back into the bag? If I’m tying for someone else to cut, I can be packed and retying to the ball before a piece is landed and fully untied. The zigzag is amazing for this, but I’ve done it with hitchclimber setups and the RRP as well. For short crane jobs like leyland picks I drop down to my 120’ line.

I mostly use 200’ lines. I have a 165’, 150’, and 120’ as well, but the 200s come out the most, especially on crane jobs. If I plan my climb appropriately, I don’t have to mess with it too much.

As for bailing from a stalled crane- having a long enough rope is a must, but for anyone who’s hung from a 200’ stick, I doubt any of us had a 400’ line just in case. If lanyarded to the hook, an srs system can be made at the tie-in, so a 200’ line is now long enough to reach the ground. This requires the right multicender or having the right gear on your harness to switch things up.

 

[Chris Schultz]

If lanyarded to the hook, an srs system can be made at the tie-in, so a 200’ line is now long enough to reach the ground. This requires the right multicender or having the right gear on your harness to switch things up.

Yeah, I always lanyard in along with climb line. I actually believe that having a second point of attachment to the crane ball/hook is a requirement. I could be wrong, but I believe i saw in a Best practices book for crane/tree work it is required just like the hands free communication. I’m going to have to ask our crane operator if in the situation of terminal engine failure, if it is still possible to cable down in a controlled manner(not a neutral free fall), or are your just stuck there dangling. As long as it’s not higher than 150’ I could bail out with what I keep on my saddle if this ever happened.

 

[Stumpsprouts]

200’ for crane work and prunes. 120’ for removals, canopy tied to start and retrieved as the tree turns into a stick. 50’ish for hanging Xmas lights, pruning apple trees at home, squirreling cherries from my neighbors trees, saving cats.

 

[Crimsonking]

Yeah, I always lanyard in along with climb line. I actually believe that having a second point of attachment to the crane ball/hook is a requirement. I could be wrong, but I believe i saw in a Best practices book for crane/tree work it is required just like the hands free communication. I’m going to have to ask our crane operator if in the situation of terminal engine failure, if it is still possible to cable down in a controlled manner(not a neutral free fall), or are your just stuck there dangling. As long as it’s not higher than 150’ I could bail out with what I keep on my saddle if this ever happened.

It is a requirement, but not everyone does as required, so I left it at if.

 

[Brando CalPankian]

Do you have a shorter rope for small-medium size trees for the convenience of not messing with excess?

If so what's a good length?

I'm thinking 60-80' ?

I have a few. A couple I consider long lanyards, so a 20' and 50', especially handy for ornamentals. Then an 80' for a short climb line, 120' mid line, and a couple of 200' for good measure. I definately did not buy them all at once

 

[Brando CalPankian]

I've had to throw to someone stuck in a lift about 50' up and I knew someone who was stuck in a boom at 70' but refused to rappel out. But your scenario had me wondering - what's the highest someone has encountered a hornet's nest?

I encountered hornets 70' up in a loblolly in Georgia. I could feel them vibrating in the rope, heard them at about 50' and decided to call it a day. The nest was in a cavity not visible from the ground. As someone who is allergic to bees, it was pretty freaky.

 

[Brando CalPankian]

If you choose to have a ropes of different lengths its a good idea not to duplicate color/manufacturer. You'll know which rope is the short one, which is longer by color.

There would be hell to pay if you chose wrong!

Or use different rope bags/labels.

 

[Brando CalPankian]

I’ve had to use the emergency lowering valves to lower someone in a lift, twice that I can recall in about 14 years working with them. Never had anyone rappel out, but now that I say it, I’ll probably have to this week!

We practiced rapelling out of the bucket annually at a couple of outfits. It was fun to send the reps/phc guys out of the basket.