sharp ring on treemotion

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Undertrunk

Personally I am pretty comfy with my Butterfly II but want to upgrade to a Treemotion. A freind has one but he has major trouble with on fo the rings. It cuts away one of the webbings. i wonder how long this wil last. are there more users where this happens.

Tim
 
I have been checking out this saddle and so far it seems like a really great saddle!
If you have a picture of the wear point, it would really help. I bet it is a small detail that is easily fixed by the user, but....without a picture it is sure hard to tell.

Also welcome to the TreeBuzz!
 
Thankss Frans

This was my firest posting but i was looking in here al ready for a long time.
a picture isn't possibl soon. I am going on a holiday for 1 1/2 months next week so I don't see the saddle. i was hoping to buy the treemotion at the draier shop in Germany.
 
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Thankss Frans
. i was hoping to buy the treemotion at the draier shop in Germany.

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Tell Friedrich Frans said hello! Also tell him to give you a great deal on the TreeMotion saddle or I will give him a hard time next time I see him :)


Whenever you can get pictures would it would be great. Information helps all of us in our tree gear purchases....

Have a great plane ride and I hope you are not stuck next to a person with horrible breath like I was the last time I flew to Frankfurt.
 
I do not have this problem on my TreeMo.

FWIW I can't imagine anything on the saddle that would cut anything.

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I see what you are talking about. It is a worry point for myself as well. It is the webbing that connects to the lower d's. My webbing can become folded and get a bad wear patern. Because of it I will be suprised if I get 3 years out of the saddle being the webbing cannot be replaced.
 
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but want to upgrade to a Treemotion. A freind has one but he has major trouble with on fo the rings. It cuts away one of the webbings.


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I am aware that this harness marks a progression in knowledge of how we climb, but if this is indeed the case with the hardware, it certainly doesn't mark any progress in quality control.

It should'nt be too difficult to sort this problem out at the point of production.
 
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I am aware that this harness marks a progression in knowledge of how we climb, but if this is indeed the case with the hardware, it certainly doesn't mark any progress in quality control.
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Just herd that during the Euro treeclimbing comps one of the belgium competitors treemotion saddles opened on the work climb. I will stick to the Butterfly. thanks all

Going to enjoy my vacation now. Yeeha jippiedie yooha.
 
Paraphrasing here:

"Hey just popped in to say someone almost fell out of a TM saddle, goin' on vacation, later."

"My friend has a TM with a sharp ring that cuts webbing. Vacation. Later."

For the record I have neither fallen out of or had my TM self-destruct.
 
Lots of hearsay going on here. I was at the euros and was not aware of the incident you mention, Undertrunks. One would imagine that such a situation would be discussed at the event, don't you think?
 
Right. I just had a word with the climber involved. In as much as he understands the situation it's less harness specific rather than buckle specific.

On the way back from the limb walk the climber in question was in an extremley streched position when the buckle opened. He closed the buckle and continued his climb.

He checked his harness after the climb and didn't find a fault in the buckle, i.e. it was opening and closing in a normal fashion. The most probable explanation has to do with the type of buckle used on the treeMOTION and on various other harnesses too (Tree Austria, Butterfly etc.) (see attachment).

With this type of buckle for it to be fully closed both tabs have to be located in the locked position. To open the buckle you press both tabs. Now obviously if only one tab is closed and pressure is applied against it, there is a risk of it opening unintentionally. In order to prevent this the climber should double check that both tabs are located in the correct position prior to climbing.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not making light of this incident and I'm far from blaming it on the person concerned. On the contrary, it's a dear friend and I'm really glad nothing serious happened.

But let's leave treeMOTION bashing and hidden agendas out of this one, OK? Thank you.
 

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mark, i put the harness on one day, before i got off the ground i noticed one tab wasnt quite right.....i always make sure both tabs have popped right out now.
 
I hear you there, Steve.

The same can be said of many procedures we follow on a daily basis when working aloft or in any potentially hazardous environment come to that. You're continuously checking and double checking you equipment.
 
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The same can be said of many procedures we follow on a daily basis when working aloft or in any potentially hazardous environment come to that. You're continuously checking and double checking you equipment.

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True Mark, so there is no problem with the hardware on the TM?
 
Grover,

please, give us a bit of space for the odd teething problem here.

No, there is no problem with the hardware on the design level.

We are so far aware a handful of climbers who have had issues with sharp edges on the hardware. The problem is being adressed and will be sorted in the second production run. I have full confidence in the abilities of the folk at DMM and Teufelberger to resolve any quality issues - should any arise - in a more than satisfactory manner.

No one had fallen out of a tree because of this matter (God forbid), so let's try to get it back into perspective again.

The front hardware element is a very complex design treading new ground, it benifits the climber in various ways and is one of the factors that contributes to making the harness so pleasant to use. It's decidedly not off the shelf Tawian/ far east hardware... so please hand us a bit of slack while we sort this one out.
Thank you.
 
i have never had a problem with my treemotion, so far so good, actually we just got our climber back from a four month injury vacation and he has already said that he is going to buy a treemotion and he has only had his new saddle for 3 climbing months, all he did was run up a tree and come back down and that sold him
 
Mark, I'll probably be ordering a Treemotion from Sherrill, but was informed that they are on backorder until August. Will the next shipment they get in be the second production run?


By the way, I love the saddle. A friend of mine let me borrow his for a couple weeks while he wasn't using it and now I'm totally spoiled! Thanks for the dedicated work on making this saddle happen.
 
Thanks Leon.

Indeed, that will be a harness of the second production run.

One of the reasons for the hold-up isthe fact that feedback is being taken seriously, has to be analysed and acted upon. So, despite the fact that this procedure causes delays and can -understandably- be frustrating as a dealer or person wanting to order a harness, I do think it's the right way to proceed in order to avoid longer term complications.

So, as I said before, I'm sorry for any frustriation caused by theses delays, but rest assured that things are moving forwards.
 
No worries Mark. I'm glad you guys are putting this much effort into it, and I'll gladly wait to get a quality product. That's not to say I won't get a little impatient, but that's my problem.
 
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