Safety and liability

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...that will never change, period.

jomoco

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Gets kinda stuffy in there with the doors closed and no windows, doesn't it?

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No windows Guy?

The net is nothing if not a house of many windows!

I gather you disagree with my position on enhancing chipper safety?

Is a 200 dollar emergency stop handle in the infeed hopper too much to ask for Guy?

jomoco
 
That's the first truly insightful question you've asked BB!

I have my opinion on that very matter of course, but first I'd like to hear your opinion on why a manufacturer might patent and produce such a device, and then stop producing it?

jomoco
 
Come on guys, jump right in on this important safety debate!

I am personally astonished at the hypocrisy exhibited in these chipper threads by the climbers currently having a cow about aluminum rings failing and threatening their precious little lives!

And personally, I'd rather try flying from 250 feet up than sumo wrestling with a 200 hp WTC and losing the match!

You guys are at a potential risk of alienating yourselves even further from your groundmen in my opinion.

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Is a 200 dollar emergency stop handle in the infeed hopper too much to ask for Guy?

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Who is making that?

How would it work? It's hard to imagine any sort of emergency stop switch that could be activated by someone being ssucked into the chipper that every piece of brush/wood would NOT activate.

Is it possible for you to answer even ONE question that's posed to you?
 
Well gee whiz Tom, if you read the linked OSHA recommendations article I provided, you would see a very clear example of just such an equipped WTC.

You act like neither bandit or morbark have ever manufactured such WTC's, or their conspicuous absence in documented cases of WTC fatalities.

Why is that Tom?

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Really jomoco I for one am truly sorry you lost a freind to a chipper. But, I have to say get a life, he most likly went throught the same as others did. Stuffing brush from face right at the table. Had he been to the side like it is told and taught, he'd be with us today backing you on your chipper manufact bashing spree. This horse is way past dead you've beat it enough.
 
They aint anywhere close to being black and blue yet Holly old friend, heck I aint even laid a finger on em yet.

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Oh, I get it BB old chum, all you big brave climbers got no problem defending ISA certifications for climbers being dependent on a proven ability to rescue fellow climbers who make mistakes despite their training.

But you can't quite see your way to supporting two man minimums or inhopper emergency stops to reduce the number of fatalities of WTC operators who make mistakes?

You're all a bunch of posturing hypocrites in my book.

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But you can't quite see your way to supporting two man minimums or inhopper emergency stops to reduce the number of fatalities of WTC operators who make mistakes

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WWHHOOOOOOOOOOO take it easy puss pants. I'll let you know right now. I've done more jobs then I'd care to say without a single back up climber around. Not even one ground putz that would even set a ladder to get you. Do I fell it un safe? Yes. Would I not do it? UUUMMMMMMM duh no. Why cuase I take my time like that and make sure I follow my safty rules to the T. I even ask myself twice before I make a cut would you do this? This work, in all, is not so unsafe, it's the dumb fucks that try to do it that make sound like a haz mat job.

Sorry if your freind was one of the dumb asses that added to the numbers to make us all look bad.

Maybe I should retract that???????????????

Nah better you maybe heard it out loud then the oooooo I'm soooooo sorry bullshot.
 
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What is the numero uno work practices recommendation given by OSHA to prevent accidental wood chipper fatalities guys?

Is your company following this OSHA recommendation?

We already know BB has claimed the fifth on this pertinent point.

jomoco

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Since BB and I both followed the link and found that TRAINING is listed first the onus is on you to show us where we missed the point.

Tell us...what IS the numero uno?

Second...I must be having a thick-headed moment because I totally missed your reply about the panic stop inside the chute of a chipper. Be succinct and clear, where is the panic stop that I'm not seeing?
 
Sounds like you might just support two man minimums for enhanced WTC safety after all Holly!

Yu old soft hearted, hard headed piece of leather you!

Does every climber in Joisey have your compassionate outlook for his groundmen?

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Does every climber in Joisey have your compassionate outlook for his groundmen

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Now I'm gonna show my soft side. I luv my ground guys prase them every chance I get. If a customer says "wow you did a great job" I say "no!" "all I did was tie the rope off and cut these guys did the great job". If we get a tip they get it all me none. I make sure to watch from the tree at all times to make sure they are safe as much as I can. I make sure they understand their job, and to make sure they know a chipper inside and out. Along with any other tid bits I am leaving out to keep it short.
 
Show me research that proves your cords have saved more lives than TRAINING. I work with chipper models that don't have these cords everyday, 15"-24" chippers, some with grapples. Haven't seen a close call yet!

We have 2-3 guys chipping at all times, as we run 3-4 man crews. utility crews, 2 men, are the exception.

We pride ourselves on being on the forefront in safety. We prove this by having members and chair persons of some of the top safety committees in the USA!




Don't try to come at me with your DILLIGAF bull crap! you wanna compare resumes and see who's done more for the safety of our fellow man? I know you'll beat me in lawsuits and court trials against chipper manufacturers! LOL!


I believe Tom and I have some confusion, could you clear that up, pretty please?
 
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