Safest and best sap remover for your climbing rope

Thank you sir.

I was thinking of trying Gojo Orange hand cleaner (the smooth version, without the pumice abrasive). That stuff contains jojoba oil, which cuts damn near everything I've ever thrown at it, including epoxy. Anyone ever tried that?

Just now, I rubbed some mineral spirits into my hands, then some Gojo Orange, and it totally emulsified the white pine sap. A little Dawn dishwashing liquid after that, and my hands are as clean as new.
 
Does anyone else keep a separate lanyard in their bag for pine, spruce, etc? Pitchy stuff is where the old rope grabs like Gibbs shine.

Still worth knowing how to get that stuff off your gear.
 
Thank you sir.

I was thinking of trying Gojo Orange hand cleaner (the smooth version, without the pumice abrasive). That stuff contains jojoba oil, which cuts damn near everything I've ever thrown at it, including epoxy. Anyone ever tried that?

Just now, I rubbed some mineral spirits into my hands, then some Gojo Orange, and it totally emulsified the white pine sap. A little Dawn dishwashing liquid after that, and my hands are as clean as new.
Will that Gojo stuff work with superglue too? I've ruined a couple of good pairs of pants because I was to lazy to change pants or be more careful when using superglue.
 
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Regular "rubbing alchohol" from your local drug store works great. It's cheap and evaporates quickly, leaving no residue.

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You use that on your rope?

I forget where (engineering toolbox??) was the only reference out of a bunch, incl. manufacturers stuff, that I found that listed isopropanol (other alchohols?) only as "moderately" reactive with polyester or nylon - but this was soaking in it for a long time (and it didn't say what grade they used - impurities can matter). And some used other "alcohols" like methanol in their tests. Don't soak the thing. For sap fests, I get 98% pharmaceutical grade isporopanol, by the case (1Liter bottles) and just dampen a spot on a cotton towel type rag and scrub the rope/ prussik, whatever till the goo is off. This doesn't saturate the rope fabric. Let it dry for short time (5 min) in the sun and the alcohol is gone. Really soiled stuff is washed in front load, cool water with Teufelberger scrubba, no spin. If it's just dirt, I wash the rope with cold tap water and a rope scrubber (we use these on climbing ropes dragged around in glacial till/ silt - little sharp rock bits) and dry outta the sun. On metal stuff (spurs, ascenders what have you) or on your vehicle, the isopropanol dampened rag thing works great too - you may want to put some car wax on the car paint after, if you're diligent. C3H8O works on sap from under elms infested with aphids too, really all sorts of stuff. And on pants, jackets too.
Oh and maybe I should say why by the case? We use it for sterilizing (note the specific term used - not disinfecting) pruning tools using alchohol (3 min) and then flaming and cool down. Esp with stuff with spores.
Goo removal using oils or other stuff seemed like more work and for rope, it left it slicked up a bit when I tried stuff like canola, but maybe I wasn't using it properly.
I do keep my sappy lanyards separate for those jobs, and try using camming devices some times rather than prussiks to save myself some dishes.
My 2 cents. Cheers.
 
Does anyone else keep a separate lanyard in their bag for pine, spruce, etc? Pitchy stuff is where the old rope grabs like Gibbs shine.

Still worth knowing how to get that stuff off your gear.
Yep, definitely way to go. When it is a pitchy removal I don't mind the basic rope grab that won't loosen under load as the work is usually up and down a bole. Nice and tight to the saddle too vs a hitch. I throw out hitch cord vs cleaning which is prob wastelful but bulk beeline is pretty cheap.
 
Will that Gojo stuff work with superglue too? I've ruined a couple of good pairs of pants because I was to lazy to change pants or be more careful when using superglue.

I doubt it, but acetone (nail polish remover) will! (And Gojo only works for uncured epoxy.)
 
I forget where (engineering toolbox??) was the only reference out of a bunch, incl. manufacturers stuff, that I found that listed isopropanol (other alchohols?) only as "moderately" reactive with polyester or nylon - but this was soaking in it for a long time (and it didn't say what grade they used - impurities can matter). And some used other "alcohols" like methanol in their tests. Don't soak the thing. For sap fests, I get 98% pharmaceutical grade isporopanol, by the case (1Liter bottles) and just dampen a spot on a cotton towel type rag and scrub the rope/ prussik, whatever till the goo is off. This doesn't saturate the rope fabric. Let it dry for short time (5 min) in the sun and the alcohol is gone. Really soiled stuff is washed in front load, cool water with Teufelberger scrubba, no spin. If it's just dirt, I wash the rope with cold tap water and a rope scrubber (we use these on climbing ropes dragged around in glacial till/ silt - little sharp rock bits) and dry outta the sun. On metal stuff (spurs, ascenders what have you) or on your vehicle, the isopropanol dampened rag thing works great too - you may want to put some car wax on the car paint after, if you're diligent. C3H8O works on sap from under elms infested with aphids too, really all sorts of stuff. And on pants, jackets too.
Oh and maybe I should say why by the case? We use it for sterilizing (note the specific term used - not disinfecting) pruning tools using alchohol (3 min) and then flaming and cool down. Esp with stuff with spores.
Goo removal using oils or other stuff seemed like more work and for rope, it left it slicked up a bit when I tried stuff like canola, but maybe I wasn't using it properly.
I do keep my sappy lanyards separate for those jobs, and try using camming devices some times rather than prussiks to save myself some dishes.
My 2 cents. Cheers.

Isopropanol is a very handy solvent but does have a little known hazard in its use. It can act as a hormone to promote the breeding or multiplication of internal parasites that you can come into contact with, or have living in a latent state within you.

Suggest not getting it on your skin if you can avoid it.
 
Isopropanol is a very handy solvent but does have a little known hazard in its use. It can act as a hormone to promote the breeding or multiplication of internal parasites that you can come into contact with, or have living in a latent state within you.
Suggest not getting it on your skin if you can avoid it.
I'd be interested in a citation for this too.
C3H8O doesn't really very readily penetrate intact skin so a spot on a cotton rag should be OK. It used to have hospital uses such as cooling for patients with fever using it as a skin rub. I might not use it if you have a wacking good case of contact dermatitis or skin eczema though.
This is probably overkill, on the way too much info side, but here goes:
(TOXNET is really reliable chemical info - note that the inhalation effects cited refer for the most part to industrial exposures to C3H8O vapours)
If you really don't want anything coming in contact with your skin, suggest using a disposable pair of nitrile gloves (like a shop mechanic would use for a brake job). Problem solved.
 
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Here’s one that I dug off the web. From Hulda Clark, she isn’t a Dr Medicine but is a Dr if Naturopathy, but is also leader in parasitic studies. Her course of anti parasitics is probably the best commercially available (but takes 3 months from memory).


Hulda Clark’s book is also helpful: Prevention of All Cancers

I have read other scientific studies on the hormone action but will have to dig for them as they are photocopies, but can probably find online easy enough.
 
@Woodwork I already tried acetone extensively, didn't have any luck with that.

Huh. I'll be darned. When I was a kid, back when crazy glue was new on the market, my dad got his fingers stuck together with it, and IIRC, he used acetone to unglue them...maybe it bonds too well with fabric to get it out with solvent.

Side note: A doctor friend of mine said that if you get a real bad injury and your guts are falling out or whatever, and you have no way to stitch or staple things up, and need to close the wound until you can get to a hospital, Crazy Glue will work in a pinch...apparently water is what makes it "kick off" and you can accelerate the adhesion by wetting the bonding surfaces...
 
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We work with a lot of pitch and white pines in my area. Just using the rope will flake off the sap after it dries. Doubled rope with a friction knot of course.
 
Huh. I'll be darned. When I was a kid, back when crazy glue was new on the market, my dad got his fingers stuck together with it, and IIRC, he used acetone to unglue them...maybe it bonds too well with fabric to get it out with solvent.

Side note: A doctor friend of mine said that if you get a real bad injury and your guts are falling out or whatever, and you have no way to stitch or staple things up, and need to close the wound until you can get to a hospital, Crazy Glue will work in a pinch...apparently water is what makes it "kick off" and you can accelerate the adhesion by wetting the bonding surfaces...
I know it works well on skin and other surfaces. Also, I'm afraid of it dissolving the pants, because they are 35% polyester and I don’t know how it'll react with acetone if I really soak it. I'd rather have glue spots than disintegrated fabric.
Maybe the teflon coating also works against getting the glue out?
 

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