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I agree...looks like a lot of fun. But, man if a tall chunk flips sideways (kind of like a big chunk of leader)instead of downhill... then you in a world of sheeaht.

Also agree...can't see how you make it safe by removing hazards and revealing others.

Guess they concentrate on the ledges?
 
"White Hat" on the ground is standing across the road from the runout?! Duh!?

Some created drama by the videogrpaher/voice over but I'll bet that going under a pile of rocks like that is normal.

Nice thing...no 'up rigging'...smash and bash!
 
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"White Hat" on the ground is standing across the road from the runout?! Duh!?

Some created drama by the videogrpaher/voice over but I'll bet that going under a pile of rocks like that is normal.


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Has just a hint of "Nosak" series, Saw for Hire.

Definitely some contrived drama going on. Not all bad tho.

Probably safer than pulling 800 lb. alligators into a row boat lol.
 
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Seems like OSHA would have some input on some of the goings on. Single tie ins...work positioning...

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These guys are definitely the real deal. The company’s name is Janod and their headquarters are based in Canada.

They are the best rock remediation experts in the world. We’ve had them work for the NH DOT on several occasions. They are experts in their field.

OSHA doesn’t have a say on how they are tied while cutting, because there are no policies for that type of work with a chainsaw. ANSI doesn’t have a say, because they are not tree climbers and are not engaged in arboriculture work.

They make their own safety policy. They are rock scalers when doing rock-scaling work and get paid accordingly (big bucks for sure). When they are engaged in cutting operations they get paid a labors rate for some very dangerous work.

http://www.janod.biz/past_present.php
 
wasn't talking about double tie ins while cutting...while prying etc.

Few accidents and OSHA will be making regs for them and their employers. Esp with this hi visibility.

People are bound to get injured in a job like that just like tree work.
 
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wasn't talking about double tie ins while cutting...while prying etc.

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Still more likely to get hurt cutting with a single tie in than when scaling (aka prying).

Cary, those Canadians are the best. There are a couple of other companies that are qualified to bid the Government contracts that we at NH DOT put out, but Janod is by far the best.
 
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wasn't talking about double tie ins while cutting...while prying etc.

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Still more likely to get hurt cutting with a single tie in than when scaling (aka prying).


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Really?
 
When OSHA doesn't have specific regs for a given industry they will apply what they feel is the closest fit. This is much like how rules have been applied to us. OSHA is loathe to write up a whole new set of regs for specific jobs.
 
I agree. Possibly some removal for camera footage? You could make a comparison to a big dead tree...if no target (no road within reach of tumbling rock or fence is sufficient etc.) then they move on? On a desolate road or as an analogy, a dead tree in the woods...can you hear a rock fall? lol

Wonder how they deal with chafing of lines bent over sharp rocks? They probably have spotters above? That is why I would want to have a double tie in. Even with a spotter you can't see everything and the guy is constantly moving around.

What if a tall rock falls sideways right into your lap? Shock load probably would destroy a 7k static cl line.

On tonight at 8 on Natl Geo hd.
 
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Still more likely to get hurt cutting with a single tie in than when scaling (aka prying).


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Really?

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Don't have to be pissy about it, just trying to make a comment on your post, and they use scale bars, they don't call them pry bars or prying. That would be like calling an iron worker a steel worker.

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I have worked personally on jobs with these guys on 2 separate times for the NH DOT. They top rope over the face, just as if you were rock climbing, in fact the gear is the same. Their ropes are usually Petzl kernmantle; nylon rock climbing lines and they are anchored from a single point, which is usually a sound tree above. On projections where the face of the rock is sharp, they will put sleeve protectors over their lines to prevent chafing. Petzl Stop and I’D are the most common mechanical tools used for descending.



If no anchor is around, they will either set a ground anchor, or haul up a portable gin pole that can be assembled and set up above their work area. Remember, some of these cliffs are 100's of feet high and no crane is going to reach up there. There is an awful lot of gear hauling that can go on.


Yeah, I’m sure that a lot of those stones could stand for a hundred or more years with no problem, but if the DOT notices that rock (even small ones) seems to be a problem in certain areas, we will go through and do a rock scaling remediation project if the funds are available. We have every problematic site in NH, on State or Federal roads monitored on a yearly basis by registered professional geologists to insure that we are keeping the roads as safe as possible for motorists.
 
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contradicting yourself skippy
 
The following pictures were taken a few years ago when the NH DOT was doing a rock remediation project up in the White Mountains.

The company is Janod, same guys that are in the show on Nat. Geo. They were doing some hand scaling along with a full test of all the rock bolts and tendons that were put in back in 1972. The initial ‘72 project was all part of Eisenhower’s Interstate Highways program that was started back in the 1950’s.

Here is an aerial view of the east face of Barron Mountain off of I-93. The scalers top roped down after setting anchors in the trees above.
 

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This is a view from the top of the rock face looking north towards Franconia Notch where the Old Man Of The Mountain used to stand, before he came down in a rockslide.
 

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