Rigging Tip Failure

No understanding of basic tree structure either. The tree with the rigging point sure looked like obvious included bark. Ohhh...and dead too?!

With YouTube cluttered to overflowing with scenes like this it makes me wonder why more people aren't killed or injured.

Of course, to be fair, when the job goes right it doesn't make very good viewing. Yawwwwnnn...

Crazy is that no one got hurt.
 
That could have been a nasty accident....

Just like Tom already said...can't believe they seriously looked at the tip before making their decision.

Seems like a hurry hurry setup and they sure were lucky for causing only damage to their truck !
 
yeah thats pretty wild. im with yout tom, if someone made a show out of most of us doing work, it probably wouldnt be too exciting (only to us arborists). where's the fun in know how every cut is supposed to turn out?
 
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That's what happens when you're lazy and don't get out of the bucket and climb!!!!

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I think that's a natural first reaction to seeing the video...

Of course he should have gone smaller...........

AND I like to look a little deeper..

IMO that top could have been taken safely with the a decent set up... as Tom points out, there was an obvious issue with the included bark crotch on the tulip... Looks like it was natural crotch rigging there, which may indicate he just didn't have another block... If he had spread the rigging line across the both leads in the tulip, He would have been fine... Looks like groundie had the rope locked off, so ebven a little run may have made the difference...

and its a very interesting video in that the fracture doesn't happen til after the piece stops, and the two TIPs start to spring back away from each other..

I've seen parenti around.. We work the same area, and have actually met and talked to Bob Hastings several times... If you look closely you can see that the broken top hit the bucket with a glancing blow... another few inches and it could have taken op, bucket, boom etc... Very close to a fatality... perhaps the op had it figured as a near miss, but that was WAY to NEAR!
 
One mistake was having the second rigging point (the one that blew out) higher than the first rigging point. This created alot of unecessary force.

Ultimately, had he gotten out of the bucket, he might have been able to drop the four limbs and the top between the house and the bush. Kind of hard to tell from the video. If not, just one block in the tree itself would have been fine to send that top 10-15 feet higher with room to let it run.

Go big or go home I guess.
 
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At 1:08. "I don't even get what just happened there."

Kinda says it all don't you think.

Tony

[/ QUOTE ] (x2) obviously, there is a lack of training and one would think experience,given the op thought that to be an ok rigging setup.You can hear the guy recording say he thought it was to big but nothing about the setup.Nothing is funny when it goes south and you just get lucky. At that moment it seems they learned nothing. hopefully later they got something out of it and not just leave it as a close call.
 
Obviously he could have went smaller. Let say we take the same sized piece. How would we set the rigging up differently to allow for success?

I agree natural rigging was a factor, also having the second rigging point to high seems to be a factor. If the guy on the ropes let it run the full load wouldn't have been experienced on the Rigging points as well. Good observation about the structural defect in the failed tree. Shows the need for proper inspection while on ground and in tree!

To me its amazing how much the small things add up into a monstrous failure. Who's to say one small thing changed and there isn't success. Glad no one was hurt. Hope they learn from it.
 
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To me its amazing how much the small things add up into a monstrous failure. Who's to say one small thing changed and there isn't success. Glad no one was hurt. Hope they learn from it.

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This is what happens when a series of small mess ups and poor choices adds up. He was also inside or nearly inside the 'rigging triangle'. He's lucky to be alive.

A comment in the YouTube "happens to the best of us". Well, no. No it doesn't.
 
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