Rigging Rings - Build your own @ home

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Nicely done. Would it be safe to say that the xman "headed us off at the pass" and made his branded rings available sans sling? I noticed them on treestuff the other day and started wondering what was up. It seems like a savvy capitalist adapting to market demands, well played xman, well played.
 
Would have used smaller rope or bigger rings....the rope kind off sticks a bit out now. Could be a problem when the rope around the rings gets burned by the rigging rope....maybe I am wrong, but I used my rings with the rope nicely tucked in.

In normal circumstances it shouldn't be a problem. But you all know we don't get to work normal circumstances ;-)

Climb safe
 
Banjo, they have been availiable individually for a couple weeks now.

Merle, you dont get anything out of 2 that 3 doesnt provide. Its just a bit sleeker. I personally am satisfied, for my intended use, with the bend radius of the two ring setup.

Wouter, All the 3/4"s products sold by XtremeArborist have that protrusion. One can only assume that with Davids testing he would have chosen not to sell them with 3/4" cordage if that issue presented. If you think of how the sling will sit in basket config, and the angle of the rope leaving it going down you realize it wont touch at all.

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https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=455&item=2166#detail

Thanks for the feedback everyone.
 
Honestly, I was originally concerned myself with the over-flow. If it doesnt seem ideal after real world use, I will report back and re-configure.

I appreciate the heads up, we dont know it all, thats for sure so its nice to get other input.

I originally intended to use a smaller cord but was swayed by the higher MBS of 3/4" and the fact that EAS uses it.
 
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Banjo, they have been availiable individually for a couple weeks now.


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OK but why the change? At first he said they would not be sold individually but then........
 
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Honestly, I was originally concerned myself with the over-flow. .

I originally intended to use a smaller cord but was swayed by the higher MBS of 3/4" and the fact that EAS uses it.

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The bulge in the cordage (as it is the maximum size cordage allowed) is not a problem and we have NEVER had it contact the rigging rope.

If you use the maximum size sling material you will not have a problem with contact.

The rigging rope can't possibly contact the sling material in the groove.

Glen Riggs in PA had the same thought at first as well, then found there was no need for concern.

If you tried to make a scenario where the rigging rope would contact the sling in the groove, the ring would simply rotate and thus prevent it.

maybe theXman can sketch a diagram if needed.

We appreciate the safety notes and the fact that you stated Xtreme Arborist Supplie's statements, even if your personal opinions might be different for your own use.


It is hard not to write "Xtreme" without writing the proper known spelling of "Extreme".

But it really is XtremeArborist.com which is Xtreme Arborist Supply or XAS (not EAS).

X is for theXman that helps with most of the products we will be offering to this industry.

Really eXciting new things coming by the way.

There is a lot that can be done with these rings and it will be interesting to see the developments in the future.

THESE rings are not for life support, as you stated.

Right away we saw an interest in people buying the rings individually and an interest in climbing on them.

We saw this as a safety concern.

Therefore the safest first move was to control the cordage that went on the ring (strength and heat resistance) and control the professional splicing.

Many people in the industry said that the rings should also be sold individually and we just needed more time to think about it.

Plenty of hardware is sold in this industry individually, but we wanted to make a smart decision and not sell it just because there was a demand for it.

We decided that if we came up with a caution list, then that list would warn the purchaser and help them make wise choices.

People were interested in buying the cheapest XRR sling and cutting the ring off to make their own configuration. (which didn't make economical sense). They were going to get the rings one way or another. So it made sense to sell them individually with the best list of warnings we could come up with. A list that would help them make the proper cordage choice and uses for the rings.
 
All right Banjo , well played ? That’s not capitalist, that’s marketing . before the xman slings , did you hear of it or know what you could do with it ? No . know why ? cause your dog stayed home that day . nothing like a part cat dog to let you down . it’s a ruff meow . Market demands huh ? hmmmmmm. so savvy Banjo . Tomthe treetool must be so proud of you . Light a fire , smoke a cigar , think of all the treesuff you can do at home .
Give credit where it’s due !
 
I am backing Xman, he found the rings no one else did and no one knew what to do with them period..I give him the kudos he deserves and personally this is a moot point...the rings have been released and all can buy them and splice them how they want so whats the deal with giving X a hard time....awe well that's the nature of the beast....
 
Seems good to me Nick I would use it and dump some pieces in it, but would just need to know that the splices are done to spec...looks good though...
 
I like it. I actually just ordered the rings to do the same thing (except with double braid). Im not looking for something to replace a block, or take huge loads. Just for something light, retrievable and easy to set up remotely. Great if used within its purpose.
 
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