RE Akimbo setting and rope

shaddart said:
So how was it on those ropes?
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Haven’t tried it on the scion yet. Special edition kernmaster was to jumpy and flattened rope. Worked best with drenaline at B2. The xstatic I’ve been trying to dial in but A1 works the best. Km3 worked good at E4. Weight is 175 with no gear. Thinking about getting some dragonfly. People express good things with the fly series
 
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Has anybody tried natural crotching on double rope? I have yale 11.7 on the loosest setting possible and have to force myself to come down, maybe I should use a friction saver every where I go but I like the quickness of natural crotching if I’m just taking a quick tree down. 175lb with gear
 
I do that, lots. Including with 13mm (1/2) Safety Blue. Have you let rope run on your Akimbo a bunch yet? I wonder if it will perform better for many of you climbers after it's seen a bunch of work.

I would test a thing too if I were having that problem with my new Akimbo. Put your line over a limb where it is not playing out like you want it to, go up a height you deem safe (6/8 feet?), take out all the slack and when ready jump your weight into it suddenly. When you're comfortable with the safety of that and can just work it that way that should polish it up quickly.

I view the Akimbo's use like it's a mechanical hitch. My hand frequently pulls down on it to make it run faster and smoother - sometimes I push up on the top part (beak?) to get it to grab better. One time my older Tac rope just started slipping more and more. I had to push up on the beak a lot to finish out the day in that tree and get positioning the way I wanted it to be. (Ended up washing that rope and it cleared up.)
 
Climotocross said:
Has anybody tried natural crotching on double rope? I have yale 11.7 on the loosest setting possible and have to force myself to come down, maybe I should use a friction saver every where I go but I like the quickness of natural crotching if I’m just taking a quick tree down. 175lb with gear
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Way too much friction with my 11.7.
I weigh 140 and use B/1on Aztec that I use SRT only.
For natural crotch and ddrt I use 11.7 blue moon. It was way too much friction without a saver to do anything besides ascend and then install friction saver or tie in SRT
Edit: I should mention now that I have Climbed on it several times and done some good bail outs with the device, I may be switching my friction on it to A/1 instead of B/1
 
Weight is a good point....I'm 6'2" 212 and climb heavy with gear and heavier when called for. And...... if dynamic rigging can take a 150 lb piece up exponentially in felt weight what will aggressive climbing and especially the same for the sake of work production do with a lighter climbers weight?

When I am having trouble getting a throw weight to come down I jump it a bit aaaaand let it run.
 
Climotocross said:
Has anybody tried natural crotching on double rope? I have yale 11.7 on the loosest setting possible and have to force myself to come down, maybe I should use a friction saver every where I go but I like the quickness of natural crotching if I’m just taking a quick tree down. 175lb with gear
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I did today with FLY and the bollards were touching on decent- but I had it at c2 from single lining so might have been alot better with lower setting- crotch was pretty smooth - norway maple
 
shaddart said:
I've done that a few times now and now it won't hold at the end so am dialing more friction back in
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I’m getting a hank of dragonfly delivered Wednesday. Do you like it? I’ve heard it works well with the akimbo. I don’t like how it runs through my xstatic. Drenaline is decent, but I’m looking for the smooth shit. What do you have yours set on? My 11mm km3 I use e4 and it’s my favorite so far. Do you find it bouncy for srt?
 
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I've been rocking Drenaline about 165 or so without gear. c/4 works, but the sweet spot is nearly all the way collapsed. c/3 is smooth as butter, perhaps a little sensitive, but easy to release and perhaps only 3/8" worth of movement to rapple, 1/2" or so and I'm bombing..
Loving it more every day, I'm getting it down with the sweet spot but wish it had a wider softer sweet spot. Guess that's just my taste in things. Just seems like it takes so little movement and effort to get it moving its hard to get use to.
 
evo said:
I've been rocking Drenaline about 165 or so without gear. c/4 works, but the sweet spot is nearly all the way collapsed. c/3 is smooth as butter, perhaps a little sensitive, but easy to release and perhaps only 3/8" worth of movement to rapple, 1/2" or so and I'm bombing..
Loving it more every day, I'm getting it down with the sweet spot but wish it had a wider softer sweet spot. Guess that's just my taste in things. Just seems like it takes so little movement and effort to get it moving its hard to get use to.
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I’m 175 and e4/d4 works for me. It slides down rope though unless weight on it
 
Acerxharlowii said:
I’m getting a hank of dragonfly delivered Wednesday. Do you like it? I’ve heard it works well with the akimbo. I don’t like how it runs through my xstatic. Drenaline is decent, but I’m looking for the smooth shit. What do you have yours set on? My 11mm km3 I have to use d6 or e6 depending. Do you find it bouncy for srt?
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not too bouncy= i'm at C2 now - but did a long burn today and at the bottom I couldn't
make the akimbo stick- kept slowly decending, even after pushing upper cam up. mine also falls down the rope- didn't know there was a spring- will have to check.

will try c3 or d2 next.

been climbing with fly (red and white) for 10 years at least.

Paul
 
TallTreeClimber said:
I'm not trying to act like I know a lot or anything, but the one thing that I have learned pretty much by myself in the last 6 months, and it seems that others have not made a lot of constructive informative comments regarding this subject, is that new rope behaves much differently than well used rope.

I have left my ropes out in the weather, rain specifically, and washed them many times to try and get the production waxes off of them. I think abrasion and/or uv light exposure are necessary. UV is in short supply in the winter though.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that my ropes act completely different until they have been well worn and exposed. Slippage is common until I have gotten the production waxes off the fibers of the rope. And it takes a lot of work to get these waxes off the rope. 250lbs, and my rope runner (wide open setting) won't hold without slipping on any rope until that rope is "conditioned ".

I hope that isn't opening a can of worms, much more could be said about the subject.
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Yes, I understand. My question to wart was directed at his specific rope.
 
I have been fortunate to not have my rope be exceedingly finicky. I was getting a lot of wear on my Tachyon (pitched one up badly also) and had a few more made up in different lengths. When I went to use them they allowed some creep. Washed them all one time in commercial washers - handled.

Some may have troubles, some may not.
 
Update using drenaline all day. Had to adjust while in the tree from c4 all the way down to B2 after I wore the rope down a bit. By the end of the climb it was working really well
 

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