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How bout i come out there for a week and show you a couple tricks.
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Yeah Derrick! Thumbs up

Good one, what goes around comes around. grin
 
Mark,
I really like SRT but in this case, I just DRT it. no knots, easy retrieval. and I'm not concerned with the 1:1 and if I do have to position I have a advantage if I want it. I think in this is a case, SRT is not a advantage.

also as I think about it, you are actually doing more work to set up in SRT than DRT. you have to pull out more tail and you have a knot that you have to tie and untie. everything else is equal but no mechanical advantage.

I have done short advances of a srt …. running line bowline and Y tie off as many have stated.

but my reasons are not because its faster or easier. because its a pine and I want to keep the sap off my rope, it won't keep it totally clean but way less sticky. or its not a removal and I want to keep the bark on the tree, but then there are no spikes also.
 
I find that for most removals lanyard and rope up the tree doing some cutting of limbs that can be bombed or cut and tossed will be done. If I need to rig then the advantage of a line set high either SRT or Ddrt is not worth the time as I'm going to get up there to set up my rigging points.
 
I like my SRT line up in place at the TIP/ PSP, allowing me to limbwalk and work my way up as needed. Last tree was bomb into the yard on one side, limb walk out the long bottom fir branches to chunk them shorter and over the fence. No TIP would have worked against me.

If I am going to descend a spar and don't have a hole lot to guide my flipline around, I use a munter on the pull line, keeping my flipline and spurs to catch me in the very, unlikely scenario that it breaks, and I can leave my choking climbing system in place, if I choose.

In such cases, I figure that its a rappel line, not a life support line, as a lanyard is effectively a DdRT micro climbing system.
 
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I HATE Lanyarding up trees. I will do practically anything to avoid it. I would potentially kiss Riggs on the mouth to not have to flip line up a trunk ever again. In pine windsails where I can't get a good high tie in I will advance with line and lanyards and cut as I go.

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Me too! Not sure about the Riggs thing though.

I'll flip line a trunk that has lots of nubby bits like a spruce and install the rope once I get to the top. But smooth trunks including pines spook me. The rope comes with me already tied in if I can't use a high tie in. Who's gonna fire me for being a weenie?
But more to the point, for all you non weenies, if you need to bail quick, you can. If you're taking a rope up anyway, make it usable right away.
I doubt the extra few minutes it takes to move a little slower like this is going to matter at the end if the day
 
Set a line high in the tree, ideally just above the topping cut. If the shot proves too long or difficult I'll SRT as high as possible and then climb the tree from there. I'm thinking conifer removal. SRT to that point, on the way up clear a path for the top on one side of the tree. Once you reach the TIP either switch over to DdRt or Wrench. Blow out the top. If rigging the top the eye sling for the block makes for the hard knot on the spar, so a running bowline with a long tail for retrieval for the escape route is fine (or monkey tail) If not rigging, I'll tie in with a cows hitch (hard knot) to tie the spare together below the cut. Repeat your way down taking as big of pieces the site will allow. Once you get below the branches I will rap off the tag line. I'd rather trust a 10K# beater double braid to 170# than take the time to set up a retrievable climbing system, or worse yet smash a climbing line with a falling spar. No spikes, only when it is the only and or safest and or fastest way to do something. Most of the time spikes are not needed. I use a soft locked F8 as the bail out descender. I look back at the way I started doing this and shake my head. I feel lucky to still be here.

ooops, scratch this, spiking up from the bottom with no throw line. Very rare activity these days for us.
 
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I HATE Lanyarding up trees. I will do practically anything to avoid it. I would potentially kiss Riggs on the mouth to not have to flip line up a trunk ever again. In pine windsails where I can't get a good high tie in I will advance with line and lanyards and cut as I go.

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Me too! Not sure about the Riggs thing though.

I'll flip line a trunk that has lots of nubby bits like a spruce and install the rope once I get to the top. But smooth trunks including pines spook me. The rope comes with me already tied in if I can't use a high tie in. Who's gonna fire me for being a weenie?
But more to the point, for all you non weenies, if you need to bail quick, you can. If you're taking a rope up anyway, make it usable right away.
I doubt the extra few minutes it takes to move a little slower like this is going to matter at the end if the day

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Frax,

I prefer the term candy [pick a different word] to wienie.
 
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