Question on life support carabiners with auto locking bypass feature

[Chris Schultz]

Well if anyone actually cares, I posed this question to members of Z133 comittees at the same time I posed it here. The unofficial/official response was it is not compliant. They also, of their own accord, reached out to Arbsession to request they add language to the product description indicating these are not compliant for life support in our industry. https://arbsession.com/rock-exotica-rockd-orca-lock-carabiner.html

So there you go. I guess I ruined it for everybody lol.

Unofficial/official what is that?? Just to be safe I cut all mine to bits with a cut off wheel. I’ll bury the pieces out back tonight.

 

[Matias]

Save the whales!!!

Aw man! That's why everyone looked at me funny when I was trying to shave a whale.

 

[Phil]

Other vendor websites mention that it isn't ANSI compliant.

I see treestuff has that mentioned clearly. Didn't see it on Wespur of Bartlett.

Unofficial/official what is that?? Just to be safe I cut all mine to bits with a cut off wheel. I’ll bury the pieces out back tonight.

Its taken them 3 years to get the "official response to an updated Z 133" published. If they want to make this ruling "official" you can wait another 10 years lol.

 

[Phil]

Luckily it's mostly owner/operators here who can use what they please, but that'a good to know in case I ever see an employee with an ORCA.

I have a saying where I work..."no consequences". Meaning folks will do what they damn well please and nothing ever happens so...yeah. You can climb on a screw gate carabiner if you want. No judgement here.

 

[Chris Schultz]

I see treestuff has that mentioned clearly. Didn't see it on Wespur of Bartlett.

Its taken them 3 years to get the "official response to an updated Z 133" published. If they want to make this ruling "official" you can wait another 10 years lol.

Guess instead of my shovel, Ill be mixing up some JB weld…. Dang