Question for SRT climbing

Worthaug said:
It's important to remember that not all scenarios that may require rescue involve cutting equipment and a second tie in. Heat exhaustion, insect stings, or a bad swing may all occur without a lanyard involved. If a basal anchor is employed than its the safest quickest way to rescue the climber. It can't hurt to set one up.

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
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very good point, thanks for bringing back to my attention
 
I totally get everything you guys are saying... in fact we are training a kid to climb, but he's a very slow learner, so it'll take a while till he's ready for aerial rescue training, which our company is going to take soon. In the meantime, while climbing and working around trees I am always very careful to consider all aspects of safety and possible scenarios to prevent any accidents. I know this work is inherently dangerous enough as it is, so I like to be as safe as possible...
I really appreciate all of your help!
 
Now THAT looks awesome! After watching the video I'm ready to order... I really love the ability to re-set a friction saver device to a different point above without having to climb to the point, like I now have to do with a ring-to-ring friction saver, and there is another access line for additional climber if needed. Thanks for sharing Worthaug.
 
Zacchaeus said:
Now THAT looks awesome! After watching the video I'm ready to order... I really love the ability to re-set a friction saver device to a different point above without having to climb to the point, like I now have to do with a ring-to-ring friction saver, and there is another access line for additional climber if needed. Thanks for sharing Worthaug.
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I've never been inclined to purchase any of their stuff because there seems to be less expensive options for most of their products. This, however, I don't really care what it costs! It seems really smart and dialed.

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
 
already looked around on Sherrill and TreeStuff and others, but can't find them for sale anywhere. Hopefully they will be available soon. I'm sold.
 
I think ddrt or SRT, you best option is to just have a well placed access line and maybe train people how to access the tree based on how the line is set (SRT or ddrt) and perform am aerial rescue.
Only thing is if you need to be rescued from a work position out on a limb, you need the rescuer to be able to do more than go straight up and down a rope...
 
CutHighnLetFly said:
I think ddrt or SRT, you best option is to just have a well placed access line and maybe train people how to access the tree based on how the line is set (SRT or ddrt) and perform am aerial rescue.
Only thing is if you need to be rescued from a work position out on a limb, you need the rescuer to be able to do more than go straight up and down a rope...
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Yeah, I actually started to compose an almost identical post myself, and then deleted it as soon as I got to the part in my mind where the climber has moved away from the main stem, and is further out there. I guess I concluded that what is really called for is another experienced climber.

A climber with aerial rescue training goes beyond even that, but I would hope that any climber with decent mobility about the crown of a tree might be able to lend some level of assistance. The main thing is to not drop an injured climber out of the tree, which is why systems for lowering need to be really straightforward and simple.

I can see many situations in which the most important thing is to avoid injury in the first place, as always. Even great climbers will have a really hard time making it to somebody fast enough to be of any use in the event of a really bad wound.

This sounds like another great argument for owning a bucket truck, and preferably one with room to fit two people. Drive right up to the injured climber, treat for first aid if possible, then do the pick off.

Then again, if you have a bucket available, maybe you would not have a climber in the tree anyway.

Tough, tough situation. The more I think about it, the more I want to try to practice using SRT with dynamic redirects for work positioning in place of lanyards, to maintain the ability to lower from the ground. Maybe not possible, but worth taking a look at.

Tim
 
I agree with your points Tim. We do have a bucket truck, and if we can, we use it. However many times we get calls concerning trees that a bucket cannot access and MUST be climbed, and certain jobs (like crown cleaning a thick pin oak) are laughable with a bucket truck.
I also agree with your wanting more practice with different techniques, which I also want. It's easy to get caught up using the same techniques over and over, even if they work.
I just love learning, especially about arboriculture, and want to continue to learn new and better ways. And THAT, my friends, is why I'm here talking to you all!
 
I've had the Spiderjack 2.1 for a while but since I got the Twinline guide it works so much better: because the pulley part of the twinline is cinched up at the crotch which allows pulling the slack out of the line effortless. I use it as back up to SRT Unicender which I climb on and then keep attached while I cut branches. So much safer as the chances of cutting through two lines is very low. Also descending on both is like a breeze. They don't interfere or slow one down both allow perfect control, both for limb walking and redirects. If you want to know any more tips using these just contact me on this or my facebook: John Moore
 
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