PulleySaver Stuck

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Arob28

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Chesco, Pa
Been having a lot of problems with my PulleySaver gettin stuck up above when attempting to retrieve it. This is with no branch interference, straight, clean line to retrieve it. Whether choked or just standard set up, the pulley often gets stuck when I try to pull it out if the loop, like there is just a bit of friction there. Love climbing on thus thing, but I'm becoming less apt to leave it to far above me because of how much this has happened to me. Any similar experiences? Any advice is appreciated.
 
Bull, I know what you mean, but I find it tough to run a huge tree, and still have it be set loose. Can really be frustrating after having a great time climbing on the pulley, now it's jammed, with my rope 90 feet above me!
 
Best install is to set it up at it's maximum lenght.
Just so that the retriever shackle is about a couple of inches below the pulley. If you use it in this way, choked or as a standard setup it will come down from almost any crotch. Use it at maximum lenght will also give you big advantage in the different angles you climb in.

If you choke it to the minimum and use the standard in short position it will get stuck every time.

Just like all other tree climbing gear you should understand the way it's been designed and that makes it easier to use it.

climb safe
wouter
 
Yeah, I'm having the same issues.

I'll give wouter's method a try, but I really like having it choked tight when climbing, which obviously doesn't work too well.
 
I used to climb on a duck saver setup in wich the pulley is tight to the anchor point....
Now I don't want to have a tight setup, cause you have so much more freedom climbing all the different angles with a pulley that follow your angle as you go.
The tight setup makes it hard to work angles and still have advantage.

give it a try and find out :-)

climb safe
wouter
 
I've had the same problems. Treestyler has the right idea. Here are some more thoughts ...

The pulley needs to be clean and slick. No sap, nothing sticky. I clean mine with naptha and wipe with a rag sprayed with silicone. Also, don't abuse the pulley on rocks, cement or whatever. The little nicks will get to be a problem.

Chose a configuration that lets the eye relax open. Wouter is right about using what Teuf calls the "swinging" configuration. If you need a choke on the stem, go with the "swinging wrapped", one round turn about the stem. The "choked" configuration works too but the pulley needs to be slick. Be prepared to shake the rope, back and forth widely, to enouurage the Pinto to worm its way through the eye. Sometimes you have to keep shaking for a ridiculously long time, but it will eventually get though. Finally, the "constricted" configuration is worst. I don't use it unless I'm staying within a few feet. If you need a close-in TIP choked and retreivable, a U-SAVER is a better choice. The pulley jumps easily through the steel ring.

Regardless of these quicks, nobady's getting my PS away from me.

oldfart
 
Don't know if this will help.....although you gents prolly know this one. If you get a rope saver stuck and a higher limb can be accessed by a throwball......set the throwball in a crotch above the ropesaver......attach the throwbag on the climbing line with a 'biner........pull the throwbag up and this should pull the ropesaver out !
 
Sorry. But, this won't really add any helpful insight. (It pretty much has been nailed though).

But, climbing SRT eliminates stuff like that.
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boy jamin your missing out then.Ive got mine stuck twice,but its so easy climbing with it.Since I gave benito his own pulley saver I dont see him climbing srt much anymore.But to each his own and we all have different climbing styles,mine is what I like to call the easy style.Whatever is easiest I tend to gravitate to that-for the most part.I usually dont chock mine unless its in the middle of a branch.Matter of fact I dont think benito has ever got his stuck.
 
I don't have a pulley saver but I do have a home made version of the primus ropeguide. Rather than a pice of rubber in the spliced eye I use a custom thimble to hold the eye open. Anyways, I run into the exact same problem you guys have been. If choked tight it almost always gets stuck but when left hanging it's perfect. It's just a function of the design that when it's choked tight it won't let the eye relax and allow the pulley to pass through. If I foresee having to choke I go back to my other style rope which uses a figure 8 for the pulley to pass through. All in all I find the old style ropeguide the most versatile.
 
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Agreed brother. That's why 1:1 reward for ascending in the tree is easiest. And endless options for re-directs allow for getting out to tips of limbs most wouldn't consider. SRT = easy peasy.
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Agreed brother. That's why 1:1 reward for ascending in the tree is easiest. And endless options for re-directs allow for getting out to tips of limbs most wouldn't consider. SRT = easy peasy.
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'sactly Jamin
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I like a mechanical advantage myself,id rather pull half my weight than pull all of it-that just doesnt sound easy to me.But it all depends on the tree as well,I will work the tree srt when I feel its appropriate.Im 200 hundred pounds so maybe that has something to do with it,but benito is only 125 and he seems to prefer Ddrt but he still works the tree srt when he feels its best for a particular tree.Its good to have alot of tools in the tool box and use the right one for the right job-it just makes you more effcient, productive and versatile.
 
Lets get back to the thread at hand about pulley savers getting stuck.Ive found to pull properly you need a the right angle.If your rope doesnt have an uninhibited path to the pulley saver it makes retrieval more difficult.
 
I don't have a pulley saver, still using the old fashioned ring cambium saver. Retrieving with the access line is the way to go whenever possible. Any reason you can't retrieve the pulley saver by tethering it to the access line?
 
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