Never liked anything but deadeyes. Tried them all. All I got was messing around with uneccessary slop. Would love to see that one trick pony ultra setting up rigging up a removal, moving up a trunk to the primary PSP. Creating good vectors. As a terminal PSP up high fine, I could see it working there...but how long does it take to tie a lovely cowhitch or timber hitch..sweet f**k all.