New RopeRunner?!?

ghostice said:
I noticed that the Notch Flow Adjustable Wrench seems to have the same kind of hex nut fastener as the one that stripped on my RRP - does anyone know if these are susceptible to the same stripping of the hex milling? Just wondering . . . cuz . . . I'm kinda chicken . . . now . . . (filling with gear doubt and currently seeking counselling for shiny new gear thingy withdrawal).
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I was sent one last year and I managed to strip it on day 1. Chinesium I calls it, seems like all that fancy Notch/VSG stuff is made from it...
 
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ghostice said:
I noticed that the Notch Flow Adjustable Wrench seems to have the same kind of hex nut fastener as the one that stripped on my RRP - does anyone know if these are susceptible to the same stripping of the hex milling? Just wondering . . . cuz . . . I'm kinda chicken . . . now . . . (filling with gear doubt and currently seeking counselling for shiny new gear thingy withdrawal).
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I learned from the RRP and so far I have manage not to strip the flow bollard. Treating it with kid gloves and using a good Allen wrench are a must with this cheap metal Notch seems to love using. ISC if your listening please make and adjustable wrench.
 
Or DMM - Please Help Us !! On thread topic a bit, I watched a video yesterday showing the slick cam the new Runner has - pull the dookey up and rotate the cam and the spring pops it back. My question is how will this work with sap? Always there's sap . . . Industrial design of life support in particular is not an easy thing, even these days.
 
ghostice said:
Or DMM - Please Help Us !! On thread topic a bit, I watched a video yesterday showing the slick cam the new Runner has - pull the dookey up and rotate the cam and the spring pops it back. My question is how will this work with sap? Always there's sap . . . Industrial design of life support in particular is not an easy thing, even these days.
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The biggest problem I see with the new Runner is the fact that it’s made by Notch. I personally don’t trust the materials they use or their build quality.
 
From a machinist point of view three main types of screws are cap (cylindrical head shape), button head (sort of semi globe head shape, flat contact face) and flat head (fit into conical counter sunk hole. Cap has biggest hex and deepest socket, button has smaller hex and ok depth socket, flat head has small hex and shallow socket. The fancy machined head screw whose hex socket is stripping has both worst, small hex and very shallow depth socket. Simple fix different screw head better hex socket. Of course metal quality helps/hurts when you increase contact stresses like tiny contact drive area does. It's like the inverse of rounding the head/corners on a normal hex head bolt. Magic of 6 sided hex socket vs flat wrench (not box end, but box end kind of sucks because it's 12 point with smaller contact)

ok boring derail over
 
Bart_ said:
From a machinist point of view three main types of screws are cap (cylindrical head shape), button head (sort of semi globe head shape, flat contact face) and flat head (fit into conical counter sunk hole. Cap has biggest hex and deepest socket, button has smaller hex and ok depth socket, flat head has small hex and shallow socket. The fancy machined head screw whose hex socket is stripping has both worst, small hex and very shallow depth socket. Simple fix different screw head better hex socket. Of course metal quality helps/hurts when you increase contact stresses like tiny contact drive area does. It's like the inverse of rounding the head/corners on a normal hex head bolt. Magic of 6 sided hex socket vs flat wrench (not box end, but box end kind of sucks because it's 12 point with smaller contact)

ok boring derail over
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Bart, I love your lengthy technical derails. Keep'em comin
 
@Muggs I was excited to hear you were coming to expo but disappointed to not have been able to meet you in person. I wasn't able to make it to X mans house for dinner but I really wanted to. Would have been super cool to have broken bread with you.
 
I was really hoping to meet you and hang out Steve. Had some good fellowship on that trip. Baltimore was hectic.

I'll post a pic of that caralink setup later today
 
rico said:
The biggest problem I see with the new Runner is the fact that it’s made by Notch. I personally don’t trust the materials they use or their build quality.
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rico said:
The biggest problem I see with the new Runner is the fact that it’s made by Notch. I personally don’t trust the materials they use or their build quality.
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Also,slic pins not main problen spring in bird are not solved
 
I have to admit saw chips and precision mechanics can disagree. Presumably the cleanout hole was propagated into the new version?
 
I, too, like the Apex, but I find I don't actually have a use for it. I did some informal testing on it and was surprised to learn that even on its maximum friction setting, it still had slightly less friction than the Rope Wrench. It was close enough to be considered roughly equal, but I was looking for something that had more friction than the Rope Wrench for those times when I had a long descent and wanted to take more friction off the hitch. The Notch Flow adjustable wrench can be set for less or more friction, so I just keep that where I want it for long descents and use the Rope Wrench the rest of the time. I like the smooth, contoured pulley on the Rope Wrench, and to me that is still the standard to beat.
 
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