New petzl sequoia saddle

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As long as you're not suspending your life from it, instead using them to support gear weight the possibilities are endless. I use the "H" style ones and put the two front straps between the stiff material and the padding just in front of the "D" rings and use a carabiner for the rear single attachment. I don't use this set up as fall arrest or as an SRT chest harness just a super padded tool support system.

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Oh I suppose that makes sense if your using it for that. Well I'm currently taking to another buzzer about a TM looking to buy one I have always really liked them I was just concerned on if it will " hold up" lack of a better term, to every day abuse as well as big removals and holding big saws
 
The saddle's built tough, but like with any tool if you're tough on stuff it will fail eventually. All three manufacturers mentioned in this thread seem to know that and build thier stuff with some degree of overkill.
 
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I don't know if u bought one already or not but I just noticed petzl is coming out with an updated sequoia in a few days.

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I yea I know that's what I'm asking about in this whole thread is, I noticed that they were coming out with a new updated version and I was thinking of getting one but I wanted to ask around as I wasn't sure if it was worth the extra what ever 200 or something extra bucks to get either the TM or the ergo, everyone is saying TM is worth it so I might run that route, I'm currently talking to another buzzer about his, but some stuff came up on my end so my purchase is getting pushed back but I'm ultimately going with a TM thanks a lot guys I much appreciate everyone's input on the matter
 
I saw the new updated Sequoia at the Expo in Charlotte. It's really worth a look in my opinion. It looks like a Sequoia upon first glance, however the improvements are hard to miss once you get closer to it. The padding is significantly increased, and the buckle system is a bit different. It would be hard for them to get any better than the current buckles, but they gave it a go. Also, if I remember, there's a bit more adjustability. Overall, it seems more robust than the current version.
 
Then why you don't make the switch like you did a while back Eric.....you know why it is just not a TM...I would never go back to using a sequoia....NEVER....
 
I gave up my Sequoia for a Tm and am now in an ergo. I actually preferred the Petzl above all and the only downside was the annoying downtime required to send the saddle in to have the interchangeable rings replaced. Now that the rings are available on the market i think i will be going back.
 
Here's the Petzl vid on the Sequoia '14

Besides the new features they talk about... stuff I appreciate right off the bat is wider/better legstraps and a sewn eye rope bridge replacing the webbing bridge. Interesting to see in the video a climber has two rope bridges installed on his harness, makes sense for better managing two attachment points. The waist belt looks better overall, they're definitely chasing the TM. Likely not a TM killer but significantly improved over the previous model.

Just a point to make... they continue to designate a DRT and SRT model. The SRT model ventral attachment (for a Croll for example) is a bit of a pain when you get into the harness. Ever since I've been climbing SRT/Rope wrench I'm not using my chest ascender anymore. If I was buying the 2014 Sequoia I would ignore the SRT Sequoia and go for the DRT Sequoia for the better waist belt buckle even though I climb SRT primarily.
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One other thing, having two rope bridges of different sizes (for any harness) makes a lot of sense to have different length bridges to clip into. During ascent I'd clip into my shorter bridge, for working the tree/limbwalking maybe the longer bridge. Good to have options.
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Haha, yet another thought. I hated the Sequoia webbing bridge, it always rolled on me, created multiple twists in the bridge, didn't inspire confidence. I replaced mine with a TM rope bridge long ago. A rope bridge eliminates the twisting problem.
-AJ
 
Sounds like its going to be a good update, and I already prefer the petzl over the others. Factory rope bridge will be a big plus, and having 2 is great in certain scenarios. I agree with moss-climb SRT on the Ddrt version, the SRT version is too busy for my liking.
 
Although it's a pia to put on the srt version, I really like the fact that you can cinch it up over any layer of clothes and it will always be perfectly snug. I really like that aspect of srt saddles. What I don't like are those two straps that run from the fixed attachment slot to the leg pads. It seems to be too tight and short and can hurt your nuts in certain positions.
 
Ya that's one of my only complaints on the sequoia, it can be fussy to get the waist as tight as I'd like it, I've learned to readjust it when I sit down in it as I do my on rope test.
 
Dorian, I find it easy to get the waist tight. In fact, I have to loosen it to take it off. To cinch it up, I hold onto the right hip D and pull the waist belt towards it. I've had other people try it on and they'll hold onto the left hip D and pull the waist belt to the right, in which case it won't cinch up. Once I get that thing tight, it stays that way for the entire climb. I really like that about it. The Sequoia is truly minimal but very effective IMO.

Marky, that's what I used to do with the TM, but you could't cinch it, meaning I'd have to exhale completely, or sit in suspension just to get the waist belt together.

Moss, all great stuff as always. Thanks for finding that video and sharing. I was already thinking about installing a stitched E2E on my current model. Maybe 2 now...
 
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One other thing, having two rope bridges of different sizes (for any harness) makes a lot of sense to have different length bridges to clip into. During ascent I'd clip into my shorter bridge, for working the tree/limbwalking maybe the longer bridge. Good to have options.
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Yea but wouldn't having two bridges, a long and a short, defeat the propose of the longer bridge for more free range of movement so wouldn't the shorter one limit that, or maybe I'm overthinking this, but that was my thought. Also second question, can any E2E splice work for a bridge since the MBS/WLL is on the splice right so in theory it should work right,

Gabe
 
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One other thing, having two rope bridges of different sizes (for any harness) makes a lot of sense to have different length bridges to clip into. During ascent I'd clip into my shorter bridge, for working the tree/limbwalking maybe the longer bridge. Good to have options.
-AJ

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Yea but wouldn't having two bridges, a long and a short, defeat the propose of the longer bridge for more free range of movement so wouldn't the shorter one limit that, or maybe I'm overthinking this, but that was my thought. Also second question, can any E2E splice work for a bridge since the MBS/WLL is on the splice right so in theory it should work right,

Gabe

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Use a 10mm cordage with a MBS around 5,000 lbs. or greater. Something like Ocean Polyester or Armor Prus.

The second bridge would be best used for another point of attachment at a completely different rope angle, which in many cases would keep things tidy and oriented properly when double crotched.
 
Sure, but when using the HC for a second attachment, you've got the tail of line coming across at an odd angle sometimes.

More so, I'm imagining how it may feel more positive and secure with two bridges in a double crotched scenario...Sure, not by too much, but still...if both attachments are made on a single bridge you can move your body position slightly beneath that attachment point. When on two bridges, each one will create it's own angle, originating much closer to your body, especially if one line has a low rope angle.

I'm not advocating one way or another, just pointing out what I see. Less is more in some cases, and others, not.
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