New "Floating D" Converter from Petzl!!

New \"Floating D\" Converter from Petzl!!

Guys,
Ever wanted to buy a favorite saddle, but didn't want to get it because it didn't have a floating D bridge?
Well now you can!
You can have virtually "almost" any saddle converted to a floating D with the new Petzl "Sidestraps" that has just come out. It was made especially for the Navajo Vario, but will convert many fixed D saddles to floaters.
I just got one and have a Newtribe and now it is a Floater!!
See it at: http://www.patrollersupply.com/store/products_display.asp?search=yes
The main belt simply slides underneath your existing side D's and then buckles, while the leg straps attach to your existing leg loops with a screwlink, then wallah!
 
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Charlie,
I did not see the Floater on the link posted. I am intrigued though. I have a new tribe saddle and a floating D would solve the only flaw that the saddle has (in my opinion).

A picture of your saddle would be cool and a more direct link, please!

Thanks.
 
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Never mind I found it! A picture of your saddle would still be great if it's not too much trouble.
 
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CAn you show a pic of how you added the floater to the New Tribe?

When I was poking around the Patrollers site I found that they also sell the aluminum rings that are used for false crotches. Both sizes too.
 
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Tom,
I found they have a lot of unusual things we can use.
Also, the Sidestraps can be gotten from Fresco or any Petzl distributor.
Charlie.
 
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OK gang.
Here is the pictures (3) of the Newtribe Saddle with Petzl Sidestraps attached.
 

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Well now, that is interesting! So how is it Charlie? Comfortable? More mobility? Any drawbacks? Should I run out and buy one right now?
 
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I just looked at the petzl site. the sidestrap looks neat, but only apears to be rated @ 15kn. /forum/images/graemlins/bigeyes.gif I hope I am wrong or missing something, 'cause that would be a sweet setup. If you can find otherwise please let me know.
 
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Tom, you don't have to clip into both. You can use one or the other, that's what's so nice. So therefore you can, for example, clip into the main fixed D of your saddle, SRT up to your TIP, then unclip and switch to the floating bridge to continue DdRT or positioning. Both are completely independent.
For another picture, ratings, etc., go to:
http://www.petzl.com/ProduitsServices/C92100_SIDES_FR729201-A.pdf
which is the Petzl site and shows the instruction pamphlet like I received with mine.
Sarumono brings up a good point, in that, in the instruction pamphlet you will notice that the bridge strap is rated to European(EN358) standards at 15KN which is about 3,375lbs. If that's not enough for you, make your own bridge from Spectra or rope.
Two slight disadvantages I saw, and because of these, I started to negotiate with Newtribe and they have agreed to customize it with a patch fix that I designed for them. Viola or Barbara of Newtribe has allowed me to announce this, so you can call them and tell them you want the customized fix for the Sidestraps like you did for Charlie Brown.
First disadvantage is, that the screwlink that attaches to the leg loop is square and simply goes over the leg loop strap so that it slides on the leg strap and when an upward load is put on it, it slides up to where the legs straps meet at the bridge or top of loop and pulls against the stitching. So Newtribe said this is not a problem because the entire leg loop is one continuous piece of webbing, however, they will sew a piece of webbing underneath the top of each of the leg loops to hold the screwlink in place and keep it centered below the pinnacle of the leg where the load is supposed to be.
Second is a matter of sloppiness. The main belt passes under the side D ring(toward rear), then back(toward front) through the main hole of the side D, so the belt is a little loose or not held down within the side D, however when under constant load it is tight. So Newtribe will replace the standard side D with one that has an extra bar at its base so the main belt can go under it then back over the lower bar w/o being in the main hole of the side D.
I tell ya'll, that for only $64, for me to have the comfort of a Newtribe saddle with the flexibility of a floating D for positioning or DdRT, you can't beat this. You could tweek it also with what you want. Also, don't forget that maybe because of our response and ideas to improve this thing, many more even better versions of this thing may begin to be developed by other manufacturers (like more strength and better fit or customized to each brand saddle, etc.) Remember, this is opening up different markets to some manufacturers who in the past only had fixed D's and that's one bigggg reason Petzl did it too, so it behooves us to respond.
My two cents.
 
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Cool! I'm pretty much sold. I've been hoping for a while that New Tribe would manufacture a floating D saddle, but until then I'm going to have to try this out.

Thanks for sharing all the info Charlie.
 
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… many more even better versions of this thing may begin to be developed by other manufacturers …

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For those looking for a new saddle, Bashlin makes a saddle with a floating bridge and independent leg movement. You’d have to call them, though, since it’s not displayed on their website. It is in they’re latest catalog. I think it was about $280.

http://www.americanarborist.com/Res...3C-BE64BD50CE98&category=32&startat=1

I’ve been using it for about 6 months and like it a lot..

Jim
 

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Here are a couple of my Petzl saddles with the floating D conversions. I have aluminium rings on both bridges.
 

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