Need help identifying 2 "mystery trees"

[Ryan from North Texas]

I have always wanted to grow a tree from acorn, so I planted acorns from two trees I thought were pretty, naively assuming they were simply "red oaks". After doing some research, I have deduced they are not Northern Red Oaks or Pin Oaks, but still may be Shumard Oak, Scarlet Oak, Texas Red Oak, or Texana. Could someone please help me identify them? Below are pictures of the parent trees of each.

Tree number 1: (first 4 pictures)

Tree number 2: (last 5 pictures)

 

[Tom Dunlap]

When I lived in Texas I found out from my Arbo buddies that the accepted conclusion is that most of the red oaks cross breed. Trying to decide if a tree is one or the other species or a cross was more of an academic challenge

 

[Ryan from North Texas]

I had wondered if that might be the case. I imagine you are probably correct. Thank you for responding.

 

[JontreeHI]

When I lived in Texas I found out from my Arbo buddies that the accepted conclusion is that most of the red oaks cross breed. Trying to decide if a tree is one or the other species or a cross was more of an academic challenge

Same in PNW
Frankenstein red oaks all over town