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Someone already posted that link Sherlock.

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I know I reposted so that YOU COULD REREAD IT. PPPHHHHFFTT the coffee be for me and the other groundies. Better would be hook the winch from chipper to your line and leave ya hanging in the wind. Maybe put a notch in the bottom of the tree.
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Someone already posted that link Sherlock.

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I know I reposted so that YOU COULD REREAD IT. PPPHHHHFFTT the coffee be for me and the other groundies. Better would be hook the winch from chipper to your line and leave ya hanging in the wind. Maybe put a notch in the bottom of the tree.
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No worries, you wouldnt last 2 days working with me. There is only room for one a$$hole, and Im it!



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And uuummm I guess what is written can't be changed or that new ideas can't work cuase these 2 guys said you can only do it this way. If that was the case we'd still be spiking and using 3 strand.

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IMHO, It is the issue of managing the rope. Yes it gets stepped on but at that point maybe the groundie could move it to a position where it's out of the traffic flow or drop zone. When the rope is managed by the groundie properly it doesn't end up snagged and entangled in brush to the point you can't move in the tree. If they just walk all over it they are in effect ignoring it.

Trounced on repeatedly can just make for a dirty wet rope that need not be.
 
I'll start off like Holleriech;

WTF!

Sounds like some of you climbers are so high and mighty.

Stepping on the rope isn't going to do crap!

Dumb azzes.

you people that say this are also probably weekend rock climbers and also volunteer firemen.

I remember in college, i joined a rock climbing club for a year; Bunch of over exagerated anal wussies.

One kid stepped on another climber's rope. The climber freaked out! "WHAT ARE YOU DOING! GET OFF MY ROPE!" "you see, microscopic dirt is working into the fibers and weakening the rope".

Another time, a climber while standing on the ground, dropped his figure 8. He then retired the figure 8. Taped it up and wrote on it, "WARNING DO NOT USE". He then kept it in his college dorm room.

Give me a freakin' break. I can't believe real world tree climbers are on tree buzz saying that it is bad for someone to step on a rope.

Hey that's it, maybe it's not the real every day climbers that are saying this.
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" I can't believe real world tree climbers are on tree buzz saying that it is bad for someone to step on a rope."

Like too many issues everyone has to scale their response. From 1-10 where does occasional rope walking take up it's position? Unless the ground has sharp, hard edges like some rock mulch the damage is probably minimal. But, like Top says, why not take care of the gear? Deliberately walking on ropes when there are other options is sloppy and careless.

Do I freak out about ropewalkers? Not anymore...but anyone who doesn't show respect to other people's belongings gets the eyeball.

If it's muddy out I would expect that anyone who got into my van would at least smack their boots together to shed some of the mud before swinging their feet in. Would I expect them to scrape their boots? Not unless I took my muddy boots off first. Wear and tear is one thing, unneeded abuse is another.
 
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If I step on somebody else's rope does it take the strength of the rope away and why do they make such a fuss about it?

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To answer your original question.

They make a fuss about it because the are freakin' idiots!

They want you to feel like their life is hung in such an unstable and delicate balance. And what they are doing is so dang dangerous. And how dare anyone jeopordise what they are doing. You better pay attention to everything and jump if they say jump because they are the climber and you are the groundman.

There is a lot that makes up a good groundman, and they are very important. But if the climber is focusing on things like this, I'm sure he's an azz to work with.

this is coming from a climber.

(I was a groundman from age 15 to age 20. climber from age 21 to now, 35.)
 
Xman you are way off. It aint about being high and mighty. Its about a simple form of respect. Plain and simple.

And for the record, I dont ask anything of any crew member or groundie that I wouldnt give in return as a groundworker.

There is a lot that makes up a good groundman, and they are very important. But if the groundman is so disrepectful as to CONTINUALLY walk on a climbers rope, Im sure he's an azz to work with.

this coming from a better, high and mighty climber.
 
Whilst observing my deft footwork get suddenly jerked into the breeze in the high limbs, the groundie realizes his foot is on my tail (kinda why its called a tail?). Suddenly, a teachable moment arises...

...do I take the time to put 13 twists for a noose or would a scaffolding knot suffice?

Agreed, its technically not about rope damage.

Its about hauling up a clod of mud the width of one or more footprints and then wondering how that will do going through my friction device(s).

Water doesn't damage them, either. I try to keep my ropes dry, and expect the same of others, too.
 
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But if the groundman is so disrepectful as to CONTINUALLY walk on a climbers rope, Im sure he's an azz to work with.

this coming from a better, high and mighty climber.

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that's funny. good job!
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oh, my bad. I didn't know we were talking about muddy boots. In that case, I'd say get off my rope. Or if there was a lot of dog crap in the yard, even more so.

but i thought we were talkin' about stepping on a climber's rope, I didn't realize we were talking about muddy boots.
 
the ammount of times ive subcontiously thought to my self-useless mofo-in regard to groundies when im in tree,im not going to be too concerned if they tread on my rope accidentally,sort of karma...
performing an irish jig on my rope would be bad form on their behalf but probably wouldnt damage the rope too bad.if it did id hit the boss up for a new rope!no worries!
 
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But, like Top says, why not take care of the gear? Deliberately walking on ropes when there are other options is sloppy and careless.

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I agree with Tom and Top. This is just simple etiquette. If you work alone, take care of your own ropes. If you work as a team, be a team. Teams function as a unit. Several individuals working in the same area do not make up a team. Good team work is a joy to behold. Non-meshing egos with lack of communication just becomes a dangerous circus.

It is amazing how much heated argument this question has produced. I think some of you need more fiber in your diet.
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All seem to be forgetting the most important factor. (9-out of 10) Will have already cut their rope with a saw or handsaw long before a goundmans foot will have damaged it.

enough said
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