My name is Bond, Wolter Bond

Wow, Tom.

That was a rude awakening.
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I actually found the thread rather amusing. This shows how vulnerable a webforum can be. This means that my gut feeling/lower belly thinking about copyright was not that much off base.

Does this mean that I have to tell junior that his dad will never be THE James Bond stand in?
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Yeah I agree, that was a fun thread. Who cares who andrew cleaves is, I dont see what harm could come of it either way. I would love to see some insane tree stunts in a bond flick someday.
 
When the thread started I had a funny feeling too. Especially when compensation and copyright questions came up. I made a post on another forum where I knew a couple of entertainment industry attorneys hung out and this is one of the replies:

... my business involves ideas for entertainment products and intellectual property law too.

You can't protect ideas alone in American law. There are four kinds of intellectual property protection: copyright, patent, trademark, and trade secret. Copyrights protect a specific expression of an idea but not the idea itself. They protect the TEXT but not the underlying concepts.

Patents protect ideas that are intended to advance "science and the useful arts," i.e. the patent has to be for an idea about doing something. An idea for a chase scene can't be patented.

A trademark is just a name, logo, or slogan that you use in commerce; obviously it doesn't apply here.

A trade secret is something that you know how to do and you make real efforts to keep it secret -- details of the process are kept under lock and key, employees who know it sign non-disclosure agreements, etc. The recipe for Coca-Cola is a trade secret. This mostly comes up when employees leave to start a competing business and use your methods. Obviously that doesn't apply here either.

Posting a message does not necessarily put its text in the public domain -- the text itself is still copyrighted -- but it does make its content public. If you want to get paid for an idea, there's no way you should post it publicly.

My own industry does not pay for ideas, period. Everybody in the business has ideas all the time. What matters far, far more than a new idea is the ability to execute it well. A brilliant idea, badly executed, still results in a mediocre product. On the other hand, a mediocre idea, brilliantly executed, often produces a huge money-spinner. (cf. Four Weddings and a Funeral -- oldest idea in the world, well-executed). It's also very difficult to recognize a brilliant idea in advance for what it is.

In the case you describe, I wouldn't count on seeing a dime. If somebody does, very nice; the producers must be feeling generous. I'll leave it to Max to discuss how likely THAT is.
 
did anyone really expect to be compensated for their ideas? I thought the copyright question was a light joke. Rereading the original post I have the impression that this guy works for a small stunt agency that wanted to WIN the stunt contract for the movie, thus he was fishing for fun ideas. He wasn't actually working for the BOND entertainment industry yet.

Regardless of his intentions, I dont see how it changes the fact that it was a good idea for a thread and I wouldn't mind hearing more ideas and bond movie spinoffs. I vote that the thread is allowed to continue.
 
Guys,

You are right to have a certain level of cynicism re my first post.

Having discovered TreeBuzz a couple of days ago I could see that you all like to discuss treeclimbing regardless of wether someone is looking for ideas for an action sequence?

I could have quite happily sat static and passively reading through the mountains of threads/posts on this site, gathering information for myself, but I thought it would be fun to start a discussion on a specific theme to create a 'buzz'.

After all this website is called 'TreeBuzz'

I enjoyed immensly reading all your ideas and I have started collecting the links etc in a folder marked 'professional treeclimbing'.

I would not leave you out of the loop when making a final draft of a storyboard, I can see that it would make more sense to have your opinions on side than attempt to translate my minimal knowledge into a sequence creating something outlandish and unrealistic.

Again, my intentions were good, but my method was wrong,
and I apologise for that.


Andrew Cleave
 
So 'Andy' What is your (FWIW) 'true story' than.
How come the people at the company you mentioned didn't know you and if that is true why did you use their name.

Don't get me wrong but here on Treebuzz our tongues are sometimes razor sharp. But that doesn't mean we impose being someone and use false info. So again, 'Andy' who are you for real (think of it as a storyboard of your life).
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Treespotter,

I was born in Reading, educated at a private school, studied media and publishing at Cambridge University, have been self employed since 1996 when I left my job as an assistant to the Director for Human Interaction with the London School of Economics.

Is there anything else you want to know about my life, like what I am having for dinner tonight or where I get my groceries?

The answers are spaghetti bolognese and Tesco respectively.
 
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Is there anything else you want to know about my life, like what I am having for dinner tonight or where I get my groceries?

The answers are spaghetti bolognese and Tesco respectively.

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Actually Yes.

Why on earth did you pretend to know the company you mentioned in your first post and what IS your link to that company.

There are a lot of Treebuzzers that don't 'tell' us who they are, but (and don't pin me on the odd one or two) we're not telling lies around here. Sometimes my truth is another one than somebody else's truth, but heck. Thats life.
 

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