MS200T Dead.

Steve Connally

Been here much more than a while
Had a 200T bogging down so I took it into Stihl. They told me I was 10 lbs under compression and the saw was spent. $250 to rebuild, $525 for a new. He also told me due to the high rpm it runs at they usually last about 2 years. Sounded kind of sketchy to me. What do you all think? Sounds like a lot of money every 2 years. Wonder if the Husky saws are disbosable too?
 
I went in my local shop looking at a new surgery saws my mate who works there told me leave the husky alone give it another year while they sort out and improve the saw ,you want a 200t .then he told me 3 out of the 6 he sold last month had to have new carbs fitted so your guess is as good as mine.obviously theres a bad batch out there so i shall be buying localy.cant think of anything worse than buying a mail order saw and then sending it back and then waiting for another one to come.So thats my bit of saw gossip .
 
I have a husxy 334t, tough as hell, use it every day for the last 2.5 years, no engine problems, great for pruning, and small dismantling work. I talked to a husky dealer myself, and was told to stay away from the 338 as the money for return isnt that great
 
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Had a 200T bogging down so I took it into Stihl. They told me I was 10 lbs under compression and the saw was spent. $250 to rebuild, $525 for a new. He also told me due to the high rpm it runs at they usually last about 2 years. Sounded kind of sketchy to me. What do you all think? Sounds like a lot of money every 2 years. Wonder if the Husky saws are disbosable too?

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That's baloney. Likely, all it needs is a lite hone of the cylinder and a new ring (or rings) plus a carb kit maybe, and presssure/vacuum check. Go to arborist site and post, also ask Lakeside, one of the best repair techs around...he's worked on a bunch of my old saws.
 
I agree with Roger,that is a bunch of nonsense.If,and I say ,if the compression check was taken correctly,I seroiusly doubt you could tell any lack of performance from a 10 lb deviation of compression.

About a year ago,a person with a fairly new 200T had similar problems.Several mechanics fiddled with it to no success,carb kits etc.That carb was shipped to me where I found a tiny crack in the fuel pump diaphragm chamber.If I recall correctly,posts were made on several forums calling attention to this potential problem.

Now there are good mechanics and not so good mechanics,parts changers,so to speak.There are also dealers of all types of equipment that prefer to sell new than repair existing.
 
Anything is possible, but I don't buy it. Over the years between the ones i personaly bought and the company i work for i've used at least a dozen 020/200s. I have yet to see one with a scorn cyl. I did have one with a bad bearing but that was the worst of it. They usually get taken out of commission for other reasons, smashed, stripped bolts etc. The older ones just become part saws to keep the newer ones going.
 
Well sir,there are a lot of differances in dealers.Like mechanics,some good,some not so good.

Norfolk is a big area.I get lost every time I go there.A lot has changed since I was in Uncle Sams deep water navy,some 30 odd years ago.

I would say,find another dealer.Take the tunnel to Hampton or Newportnews.You might have better luck on that side of the river.
 
Take it apart yourself and check it out. First take off muffler and inspect the piston outer surface, and cylinder (with piston rotated clear). How do the rings look? If you have a camera, take focused well lit pics and post them here.

Alternatively, a shop can do this for you. That inspection plus a pressure/vacuum test shouldn't cost much. A complete breakdown and worst case ring and piston replacement plus seals (which are probbly ok) shoouldn't cost over $175....if cylinder is OK....which is most likely is...10 lb compression loss is not much.
 
What is 10lbs of compression? you can have that much difference in 2 different gauges. The problem may even be else where. Do you have another one? swap carbs and see what happens, or take it to another dealer and see what they say before you start tearing into it.
 
What was happening was that we blew out the carb with the choke closed just to clean the saw. The next day every time you gunned the saw it would bogg down and cut off. It sounded pretty sick. Wouldnt stay running unless I got it wide open and then every time I let of the throttle it would die. Good fuel, new filter, new plug.
 
Well if it was fine until you cleaned it, then i would look for something stupid, did you knock the fuel line off etc. It might just need a carb kit. My guess would be carb issue. Those little 200s are a PITA to work on if your not familiar with them, take it to another shop.
 
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What was happening was that we blew out the carb with the choke closed just to clean the saw. The next day every time you gunned the saw it would bogg down and cut off. It sounded pretty sick. Wouldnt stay running unless I got it wide open and then every time I let of the throttle it would die. Good fuel, new filter, new plug.

[/ QUOTE ]That is a classic case of the low speed being set too lean.You may have blown a little piece of dust in the jet also.

I'm not trying to be presumtious but the low speed is the itty little hole on the engine side of the carb butterfly.

Get a vacuum and suck all the dust off the carb and surrounding area.Get that same air hose that caused the problem ,open the throttle and find that little hole,give it a little blast of air.Start it up.If it dies,open the low speed up a tad.If this cures it,go to Tillotson,Walbro or Zama s website and follow the directions of how to tune a carb.
 
what an idiot or liar. Last only about 2 years! I've had a 020 and 200 last easily 5 years on constant use every day until something big broke on it, and it wasn't engine wear. I think on my first 020, I ran it probably for 8 to 9 years with no rebuild or anything other than little parts replaced.
 
we used 200T's at a place I worked and they kept running and running. Have known several people who have had their 200T's and used real frequently for five years without any major problems.

I use a husqy 334T. It's great for what I need it, light pruning and smaller jobs. Light weight and havn't had major problems with it yet.

It seems that the guys who do a lot of removals prefer the 200T stihl typically has more drive and is a more robust saw (also has other features such as sight gun etc...) For me though, I love the husqy and don't need quite a powerful saw.
 
All the guys I work with use the 200's on a daily basis, sometimes that bloody saw runs for six out the the eight hours a day and they don't have any problems. The only reason half of them do have a problem is because they treat them crap, droppin'em, never cleaning them, etc. Our shop mech. is the man that has to fix all of these broken saws and nine times out of ten is something super simple that could have easily been avoided!
 
Took the saw back to the dealer and had them look at it again. $16.00 fix. Dont know what it was but now I have 2 200T. Kind of wish they had looked at it again the first time so I didn't have to spend the cash for a new saw. I suppose it doesn't hurt to have 2 saws just incase.
 

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