Not to derail the battery talk but for fumes and gas saws, I would use an alkelate fuel. They have no aromatics added like gas station pump fuel. My understanding is there are only two suppliers of it in the US right now. Stihls motomix and Aspen Fuels. I use Aspen in my saws. Especially when running gas. No ethanol, premixed with biodegradable oil, 92 octane, no aromatics, very clean burning.
No ethanol here, and I use amsoil which is very clean burning.
Amsoil is great super clean burning, I can't smell my saws or other equipment using it at all, one of the guys I work with uses a castor oil that stuff is terrible it stinks bad. I run premium gas but being in ca it has ethanol I have never had it cause any issues in any of my small equipment though.
Fumes suck. It's a huge issue for everyone who's around it for 30+ years. Literally breathing poison hydrocarbons. Noise is an issue not just for hearing loss but for start time ordinances in some neighborhoods. Starting isn't an issue for me but why spend energy when I don't have to. And again, the lack of a flywheel, starter cord, starter assembly etc is just less that can fail. I'm confident I'm in the correct biz.
You must not saw very much. Stihl Motomix runs around $28. / quart. I would be bankrupt within a week. I don't saw everyday like a lot of those here, but I can burn up 3 gallons of gas on a job. I can't afford spending 80-100 dollars on fuel each time I go out. Might be great for a home owner that cuts up a small tree once a year, but certainly not for production work.
I cut everyday. I use whatever fuel the employer is buying in bulk. I use the Aspen in my personal stuff at home because they aren't getting tanks ran through them on the regular. I'm trying to get my employer to buy Aspen in 50 gallon drums but we'll see how that goes. I understand the cost issue. I don't want to get in to a sales pitch so I'll quit talking about it.
I don't use cheap oil but I definitely don't see justifying the cost of the high end premix fuels if you cut very much at all.
Agree, I run through way to much gas mix. I use big saws often so there is no getting away from noise. All my saws have at least muffler mods. Hardly have saw problems as I am very strict with maintenence. 201's, 261, 462, 372xp, 395xp, 661, 3120xp. I gave my modded 150 to my mechanic because it really was gutless for my work.
Google puregas to see closest supply of ethanol free gas to you. $2 per gallon cheaper when buying bulk, 50 gal at a time.
It's an hour or more away from me and by the time I drive out there and taxes etc it's not worth it.
I run out of fuel (5 gallons) once a month or less most of the time so it's not an issue.
I find myself clearing space around a tree base, cutting thick brush, without wind, at times. No fume electric is great.
Those cuts with fully buried bar are impressive!
