Mentoring

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To all new climbers or ones who are thinking about learning to climb. Find a mentor. I can't stress this enough. Having a person on site while you are climbing, who can answer your questions, point out specific traps to watch for, introduce "tricks of the trade" is absolutely invaluable. And not all of us have the money or the opportunity to go to one of the "schools". The mentor should be a tree climber, meaning a production worker. Knowing how to climb is important; knowing how to use the saws in the tree while you are climbing is equally so.

I am fortunate in that I have a live-in mentor and so every time I am up a tree, which isn't often, I have someone who can answer a question on the spot. There are so many situations that come up that books or lectures simply cannot address every single one or the variations on a theme that present themselves.

Even better is to be able to spend time with that person up the tree with you. You can only learn so much from reading about it; at some time you have to go up the tree and feel it.

A point that I have been told, but was illustrated to me, was the other day when I had a lesson on the Lockjack. (I call all my climbs "lessons" because I am not proficient enough to be called a "climber".) On the way down, near the ground, I sampled a "free swing" that might occur spontaneously within a canopy. The first thing I noticed right off the bat is the tendency to want to "grab" something. This can be fatal in the fact if you grab your hitch, whichever kind you use, you can end in a free fall to the ground.

From years of riding horses, my body knows that tensing up and "grabbing the reins" in a bad situation makes things a whole lot worse. So muscle memory went with the "controlled, isolated grip". (Anyone who rides knows what I am talking about.)

What this illustrated to me, though, was the fact that you can be told over and over again NOT to grab, but your body is going to WANT to until you TEACH it not to. How do you do that? Practice and experience. Put yourself in practice situations where you have control and teach your body to automatically respond safely.

Sylvia
 
Totally agree Sylvia. I see a lot of guys get launched into climbing at their work after only a few weeks or months and struggle to develop the basic skills that make a production climber. Not to mention the risk factors involved.

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I feel that I would do very well with a mentor. I was asked to take over as foreman/ lead climber at a very early stage in my climbing career (only one year climbing). I was taught the essentials but then I was put on my own. I try to read as much as I can, work with more experienced guys when possible but nothing can compair to actually having someone right there to bounce ideas off of and ask questions to. Reading can only teach you so much.

I have been fortunate to have made such great friends here on the buzz. They always let me pick there brain and ask dumb questions. I've also been fortunate enough to have such an outstanding crew who are just as excited as I am everytime we figure something out or try something new.

Still, it would be great to have a seasoned veteran on hand at the jobsite. I know a lot but damnit I'm not even close to knowing it all.
 
I try and learn something from everyone I work with, good or bad. Whether it reinforces why a bad habit is bad or a time-saving head slapper, everyone has something to teach.

Tom is really good for the head slappers...
 
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I try and learn something from everyone I work with, good or bad. Whether it reinforces why a bad habit is bad or a time-saving head slapper, everyone has something to teach.

Tom is really good for the head slappers...

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That is such a good point. Its not always learning the good, so much of the time you can watch somebody cut something this way when when it should go that way and what not. So many of the guys I have worked with are old school but they have taught me so many things now I can take what I've learned there and put it together with things I have learned elsewhere. Another great place to pick up things and talk to people is at your local TCC. I talked to so many people at last years and can't wait for this years.
Another thing I see that I thought should be touched upon is foreman or crew leaders trying to rush the teaching process when someone is trying to learn at their own rate. Everyone learns at a different rate. Hopefully this thread will not only help climbers who are beginning their climbing career but also the crew leader who is helping that climber.
 
Over the years I've learned a lot from new climbers. Figuring out how to break down climbing into bits and portions that can be absorbed has taught me a lot.

Having new climbers ask questions is important too. Why? is a great place to begin. At first I didn't have good answers...'Because' was a first impulse.

Going to comps is a great way to learn too. Seeing 20-30 solutions for the same problem will teach a lot.

At various stages of my career mentors have come along. They show me things that aren't evident and they continue to do that.

Mentoring is the basis of a sound apprentice/master relationship. There are few things that we can give away and still have, knowledge is one of them.
 
Gentlemen, these are all excellent examples of what I was thinking.

It is hard to have to go it alone early; not impossible, but more difficult than it should be or has to be. After all, the wheel has been invented. And none of this knowledge is proprietary information...we aren't selling secret formulas.

If an "in-house" mentor is not possible, going to competitions or workshops, anywhere that will expose you to more information is great.

And, I believe this was also stated, sometimes it shows you what you DON'T want to do. Hold on to that information also. And don't worry if you have to adjust a technique to suit your body style. (Taking into consideration safety factors--don't compromise them.) But many times, David will show me something and we have to amend it to fit a body that is a foot shorter and half the weight.

Also as stated, you never know when that golden nugget will come in handy. As you progress, and we are all still learning, you may find the perfect situation for that little trick you picked up.

One more thing, there will ALWAYS be someone faster or better. This isn't a race (barring the actual competitions), this is life. Live it to its fullest.

Sylvia
 
Exactly. I'm probably a year and change new to climbing. I'm taking on a more prominent role as a climber at work, and I push myself to become more proficient. Yes, I may spend 3 hours in a tree that our "top" guy might only spend an hour and a half, 2 hours tops in due to both moving efficiently in the tree, and planning efficiently, and thinking ahead. It sometimes frustrates me, and makes me wish I could fly through the tree as fast as I know someone else could. But, I keep in mind, in the grand scheme of things, I'm VERY new to this, and as such I dont have the experience to put me on par with someone whos done it 4-5 times longer than I have.

I can justify some of my extra time spent aloft knowing I do a little bit pickier of a job (as far as pruning goes), but some of it is just plain inexperience, and no reason to go rushing around and get myself hurt or killed trying to keep up with the Joneses. Removals I'm getting better with, it used to be the ground guys could fall asleep waiting for me, but now the tables are a-turning, and at times, I could fall asleep waiting for them. :)

I'm lucky in where I started off in this, as far as my employer. They were one of the first in the state to get the TCIA accreditation, a few of the guys have completed the CTSP course and gained their ISA and Mass Arbor licenses, and are very proactive with teaching/furthering knowledge in the arboriculture field. So there hasnt been a single step of the way I havent had someone right there to ask what/how to do something, or have them actively teaching me as I went.

Its all a matter of getting better, learning more, becoming more proficient/efficient, all while sacrificing not one bit of a safety, at least for me anyways. Not to mention, those "moments", where you really just kind of sit back for just a minute, look around, enjoy the views, soak it all in, and realize just where you are at that moment, and how lucky you are to be there.

I do that alot while bracing. Haha, when I get those few free moments waiting for a cable to get made up, and I can just sit back in the harness, relax for a minute and just take it all in, and realize just how much fun this all is.
 

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