Maybe my first crane job?

[bushmi]

No that is not really an option the trees you see behind would make a very poor angle to pull and could cause the tree to fall. They are also downhill. The reason the tree fell I believe is because they were planted on clay so there is about 6 in of top soil then just a clay base. This is in a sub division where the soil is super poor.


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[kellytrimming]

Also, call before you dig!! I could tell you some stories!

 

[Gareth's Tree]

I am in ohio and I never really climb pines so don't know what to really expect if this was a hardwood I would srt right up there. I was 110' up in a red maple yesterday no worries it is not a fear of heights lol it is a fear of landing that I have.

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Never climb pines? Where in Ohio are you? As far as using a crane, it depends how close you can get to it, and how big of a crane you can rent. If you want to do the job with the least amount of dents to the turf, a crane would be the way to go. Although if you have to go across the lawn to access the tree it may be better to rent a lift and piece it down. A tow behind is a lot lighter than a crane.

 

[bushmi]

I live in the cincinnati area. I think I can get about 50ft from the tree in the driveway.

Never climb pines? Where in Ohio are you? As far as using a crane, it depends how close you can get to it, and how big of a crane you can rent. If you want to do the job with the least amount of dents to the turf, a crane would be the way to go. Although if you have to go across the lawn to access the tree it may be better to rent a lift and piece it down. A tow behind is a lot lighter than a crane.

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[Gareth's Tree]

So you would need about a 100 foot crane. Another thing to think about is, if the driveway is concrete, do you want to pull a 35,000+ lb crane on it. With the lift you could bomb all the branches, then use them to bomb the wood onto to protect the lawn.

 

[bushmi]

Very true point. Cranes look really cool though. I think a job like this would be the crane equivalent of the low and slow mantra.

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[bushmi]

Looks like a company has a manitex 2592s so looking at the load chart 77ft of boom at 60ft away I could do a 3400lb pick which is double the weight of the tree.

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[bushmi]

What could go wrong lol

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[Gareth's Tree]

Very true point. Cranes look really cool though. I think a job like this would be the crane equivalent of the low and slow mantra.

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Cranes are super cool! I agree! I would hate to go back to not having a crane!

 

[Pelorus]

We whack a lot of (dead) white pines in cottage country. Sometimes you wonder why property owners wait till a tree is stone cold dead before they finally decide enough is enough.

 

[ROYCE]

Crane!! This is a little pick for a little crane. I'm all about trying to find cool ways to get trees off houses, but not when their is a driveway 50 feet away.
While you were trying to figure out what T-Bar anchor system to use to support the weight of the tree, while you climbed it. Your competitor came in with a crane and just made 1500 in in 1hr and 15mins.
Post some pictures of your first crane job!!

 

[flyingsquirrel25]

I'd love to see photographs of your "T" stakes. I know it's late tonight, but if you manage to find the time anytime this weekend, or ever really, I'd love to see them.

Tim

What he is talking about is a Pickett anchor system. It is used in fire/rescue when a known anchor cannot be established. It is very simple to create. Drive the pickets into the ground at an angle away from your load. Tie rope/webbing from the top of the first to the bottom of the second and so on. Then use additional pickets to twist/tighten the rope between and drive it as well. Fairly strong and very easy to set up.


If you need more strength... Add more pickets and if your angle might change set them up in a "V"

 

[deevo]

Crane!! This is a little pick for a little crane. I'm all about trying to find cool ways to get trees off houses, but not when their is a driveway 50 feet away.
While you were trying to figure out what T-Bar anchor system to use to support the weight of the tree, while you climbed it. Your competitor came in with a crane and just made 1500 in in 1hr and 15mins.
Post some pictures of your first crane job!!

Yep super easy one picker! We did 3 of these crappy Manitoba maples the other day, all one picks the last one was 75' away from the crane, there won't be much to that pine, would be a nice tree do to for your first.

Balance it out nice and make one cut, is have that whole tree put through the chipper and barely break a sweat ! ( sorry Dave! Lol)

 

[Pelorus]

Up here, no local tree companies own their own crane, and you are looking at a 4 hour minimum charge. Which for a 40T crane isn't too far south of $1G. OK if you have several jobs to rattle off, or this happens to become an insurance job. Job quotations that are uncompetitive as well as unreasonable can reflect negatively on the company bidding on the work.

 

[ROYCE]

Up here, no local tree companies own their own crane, and you are looking at a 4 hour minimum charge. Which for a 40T crane isn't too far south of $1G. OK if you have several jobs to rattle off, or this happens to become an insurance job. Job quotations that are uncompetitive as well as unreasonable can reflect negatively on the company bidding on the work.

I can rent a 30 ton with a 3 hour minimum for 375 dollars. But that is down here in the US of A

 

[Pelorus]

No problem, Devon.
You know I love working with cranes too!

 

[bushmi]

So I think I can get a crane for about 350 bucks. I am looking more for experience than for making bank on this job so I am thinking only 1100 total. This person and her neighborhood all maintain their trees well so I am also hoping this may make an impression which helps me gain future work.

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[Pelorus]

I can rent a 30 ton with a 3 hour minimum for 375 dollars. But that is down here in the US of A

Sweet!!!
And up here I thought I was only getting rooked by Vermeer (Canada)...

 

[John_KAYS]

Hello all,

So I received a call today about a leaning windblown pine. I am thinking this might be my first crane job.

To put this into perspective the top of the house is about 35 feet tall the tree is probably 45-55 feet tall upright. I was thinking of renting a tow behind lift because I don't like the idea of climbing the tree but I think a crane would be ideal.

It would be quick work with a crane maybe a few hours with setup and laying it down. The tree is only about a 13" dbh white pine.

What do you all think this would be my first crane job.

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Do you have the job for sure? I look at this tree and think if you add the crane expense you might not get the job. Like some are saying, it would be a lot easier with a crane...but that would cost the client big money. Another company might have a crane and come in and do it for less. Having not seen the tree in person I don't know how possible it is to take this tree down without a lift or a crane, but I would probably figure a way to do it without a crane...but don't risk your life on it! Quote it with the cost of the crane and see if you get the job is all I'm saying. But don't do anything risky to try and save anyone money.

 

[Gareth's Tree]

So, now I'm a little curious about what you guys think you could get paid for this tree. So far I've heard $1100 (from bushmi) up to $1500 (from Royce), does that include a complete removal cleaning everything up grind the stump and clean up the stump grindings? In my demographic I don't know that I could be that high and still get the job...