Loopie sling issue

[ChampionTree]

Anyone ever have problems with loopie slings being incredibly difficult to slide? It's a year old or so and have tried washing it with no improvement.

 

[Jeff]

Yup. Don't know the solution, so we just replace them once that happens. They usually have a year's worth of hard work on them by that point, so probably not a bad idea anyway.

 

[Gorman]

The only time that happens with me is when pine pitch gets on it.

 

[JontreeHI]

My solution is dead eye slings only. Whoopies and loopies are, in my opinion, great, in theory.

Edit-dang autocorrect

 

[ChampionTree]

Yes, I would agree about dead eye slings. I'm just wondering if maybe too much dust gets embedded in the sling fibers, making the sling become stiff.

 

[JontreeHI]

It seems like the must be true, maybe as well some (micro?) fraying or fuzzing just seems to make them grab really hard, difficult to break. Fir/pine pitch etc also contributes to making them a headache, but I've never tried washing them

 

[frashdog]

I have some really old(10years) old loopies, they still slide fine, don't trust them for big deals, but we still deploy them for dirty missions.

 

[KevinS]

It depends on there use shock load etc

 

[Jeff]

Kevin, are you saying our loopies are really hard to slide because they've been shock loaded and worked hard? As in, too hard?

 

[BigWood]

Once the adjustment bury gets some fuzz, every time it gets shock loaded, the fuzz on the inside of the bury will "weld" to its self.

 

[TreeLogic]

Not a big loopie fan but I love whoopies. Haven't had trouble with them binding up, except as mentioned when sap is involved.
My problem with loopies is their tendency to loosen during load. Probably operator error, but with whoopies it just doesn't happen, so it's much easier to use (and teach how to use) for me.

 

[KevinS]

Kevin, are you saying our loopies are really hard to slide because they've been shock loaded and worked hard? As in, too hard?

I'm under the impression any splice sees pressure when in use, try to splice old used tenex compared to new, so if your splice has seen an abundance of shock loads and time and use wearing and tearing I'm sure it must have to show some where.
If you ever got spruce pitch in it while in use slamming blocks and tops friction is the force that holds it from sliding and where there's friction there should be heat I assume so it may in bed in to the fibbers over time and show as reluctancy later.
I'm no rope scientist or master splicer it's just something that I thought about when reading your dilemma

 

[KevinS]

Not a big loopie fan but I love whoopies. Haven't had trouble with them binding up, except as mentioned when sap is involved.
My problem with loopies is their tendency to loosen during load. Probably operator error, but with whoopies it just doesn't happen, so it's much easier to use (and teach how to use) for me.

When your whoopie creeps is your tail dangling or do you choke off any spare tail?

 

[TreeLogic]

When your whoopie creeps is your tail dangling or do you choke off any spare tail?

It's not the whoopie that creeps, but the loopie. I'm sure that was a misprint though.
It's been so long since I used one I really don't remember. I do remember learning once what I was doing wrong that caused it to happen, but I always felt like it was an extra, unnecessary step that wasn't needed with other slings.

 

[TimberJack]

Loopies need to be girthed hitched to the stems so that the bite of rope that attaches the block is perfectly seated in the middle of the adjustment bury. The tail of the adjustment bury should always be on the bottom of the setup. I personally prefer dead eyes because the rigging line can stay in the block whilst resetting the sling.

 

[KevinS]

It's not the whoopie that creeps, but the loopie. I'm sure that was a misprint though.
It's been so long since I used one I really don't remember. I do remember learning once what I was doing wrong that caused it to happen, but I always felt like it was an extra, unnecessary step that wasn't needed with other slings.

Correct loopie is what I meant.

 

[KevinS]

Loopies need to be girthed hitched to the stems so that the bite of rope that attaches the block is perfectly seated in the middle of the adjustment bury. The tail of the adjustment bury should always be on the bottom of the setup. I personally prefer dead eyes because the rigging line can stay in the block whilst resetting the sling.

Why should 'The tail of the adjustment bury should always be on the bottom of the setup'?

 

[TimBr]

Another cool, short thread found. Luvin' the Buzz.

 

[DTS]

Once the adjustment bury gets some fuzz, every time it gets shock loaded, the fuzz on the inside of the bury will "weld" to its self.

Correct when they get heavy shock load repeatedly and over loaded they will heat up and melt fibers inside causing the melt effect. I'd get new ones.

 

[DTS]

I meant to say weld effect lol