Location of most chainsaw injuries while climbing?
- Thread starter NewMainer
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- Federal Way WA
I don't know of a stat that breaks it out for climbing vs ground work. By far, there are more injuries to the left side of the body than the right. I would suspect that most aerial cuts are on the left hand/wrist, left shoulder, left tricep area, left chest, and neck. Keep both hands on the chainsaw and almost all of the cuts would not happen.
The new ANSI does not require chainsaw protection aloft, though for the life of me, I don't know why.
The new ANSI does not require chainsaw protection aloft, though for the life of me, I don't know why.
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- Columbus Ohio
We could seriously change these numbers if quality saw protection apparel was being made and distributed in the states.
Most buzzers that want quality gear aren't afraid to drop a few bones on some European chainsaw pants. If america would just get with it, and start working up some light, snug, stretchy saw pant at a price that doesn't involve importing then we can push for a new PPE mandate SOMEDAY.
The USA bums me out sometimes. We have all the technology, materials and people to make it happen at a reasonable price so WHY THE FFFFFF NOT? Until then GO GERMANY!!! you guys make some of the best stuff in the world, and I guess I will continue to pay for it. I hope someone at Arborwear will read this.
Most buzzers that want quality gear aren't afraid to drop a few bones on some European chainsaw pants. If america would just get with it, and start working up some light, snug, stretchy saw pant at a price that doesn't involve importing then we can push for a new PPE mandate SOMEDAY.
The USA bums me out sometimes. We have all the technology, materials and people to make it happen at a reasonable price so WHY THE FFFFFF NOT? Until then GO GERMANY!!! you guys make some of the best stuff in the world, and I guess I will continue to pay for it. I hope someone at Arborwear will read this.
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Zeb,
You have a few days left to comment on the new Z133.
If you, and everyone, feel strongly about some shortcoming in the Z you had better make a comment to the Z committee or you'll miss the opportunity. If you don't comment then don't be surprised that there aren't changes.
You have a few days left to comment on the new Z133.
If you, and everyone, feel strongly about some shortcoming in the Z you had better make a comment to the Z committee or you'll miss the opportunity. If you don't comment then don't be surprised that there aren't changes.
We don't have any choice in Ontario, if your operating a saw anywhere and not wearing saw protection, the ministry will have a fun time bending you and your employer over, they don't even offer to take you out to dinner either. I love climbing in my saw pants, I can really attack the tree with my shins. It sucks in the heat, but you know what your in the tree business and a little bit of sweat probably isn't the most uncomfortable thing you have to cope with in a day. But hey if you want to make an ER surgeon work for their dollar having them try to stitch mangled bits of flesh back together a chainsaw wound is a good way to do it.
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- Federal Way WA
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- Federal Way WA
I have a pair of Pfanner Gladiators, a little over a year old at this point. $400 and worth every penny. Wore them all summer long. A little hot, but about the coolest (as in groovy, man) PPE i have ever owned. The gators stitched into the bottom of the legs is probably worth at least half of the $400 I paid.
The trouble with getting them in the states had to do with Pfanners ability to supply them/ship them efficiently.
The trouble with getting them in the states had to do with Pfanners ability to supply them/ship them efficiently.
Frax
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I have heard that hand injuries are the most common chainsaw cut accident. I can't say whether this is aloft or on the ground though. What it means to me is a large number of accidents are from one-handing since you absolutley cannot get a cut if you are holding the saw with both hands.
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The new ANSI does not require chainsaw protection aloft, though for the life of me, I don't know why.
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How about that little thing called freedom. There are many things people do that put their life and health at risk. We could make a real difference by mandating healthy life styles. Flame me if you want but I do not need or want the penalty of laws to decide what is proper for me.
My life, my rules.
Laws feed lawyers. Take responsibility for your actions.
Dave
The new ANSI does not require chainsaw protection aloft, though for the life of me, I don't know why.
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How about that little thing called freedom. There are many things people do that put their life and health at risk. We could make a real difference by mandating healthy life styles. Flame me if you want but I do not need or want the penalty of laws to decide what is proper for me.
My life, my rules.
Laws feed lawyers. Take responsibility for your actions.
Dave
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- Federal Way WA
Freedom is fine if what you are doing does not negatively affect others. But forget the philosophy for a moment and think about the chainsaw. It is designed to be held with 2 hands. Even if you never have a cutting accident from one handing the saw, you are putting an incredible strain on your forearm, shoulders and lower back. You have less control so its harder to make good cuts. Not saying that you cant make good cuts one handed, just that you will have to compensate somewhere else.
Photo is from a guy who used a saw one handed for 17 years without incident.
Photo is from a guy who used a saw one handed for 17 years without incident.
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That is one nasty pic...
Makes me want another organic cigarette... better go outside and breath some nuclear fallout from japan.
Makes me want another organic cigarette... better go outside and breath some nuclear fallout from japan.
Tr33Climb3r
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- Wisconsin
See when I work though a tree I try to remember how I was positioned for each cut. Very rarely am I cutting near my legs like when on the ground. I think all the injuries are in the arms and come from one handing and there is a rule on that already.
Right now the only good thing with having chainsaw pants on in the air is you have them on when you get on the ground.
Try to remember your cuts and see how many are near your legs. IDK I just hope the chainsaw protection in the tree doesn't come till we can get some affordable pants here that are light and breathable.
Plus all those chainsaw pants from europe have too short of a inseam. It would look like I was prepared for a flood or something.
Right now the only good thing with having chainsaw pants on in the air is you have them on when you get on the ground.
Try to remember your cuts and see how many are near your legs. IDK I just hope the chainsaw protection in the tree doesn't come till we can get some affordable pants here that are light and breathable.
Plus all those chainsaw pants from europe have too short of a inseam. It would look like I was prepared for a flood or something.
Norm_Hall
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I apologize if this has been covered, but i couldn't find it. By location, I mean on the body, not in the tree or something.
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From the last statistics I saw, the left hand was cut the most while operating a chain saw aloft. One-handing had alot to do with those statistics. There was a comparison from before top handled saws were manufactured and the left hand injuries were waaaayyyyy less.
I apologize if this has been covered, but i couldn't find it. By location, I mean on the body, not in the tree or something.
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From the last statistics I saw, the left hand was cut the most while operating a chain saw aloft. One-handing had alot to do with those statistics. There was a comparison from before top handled saws were manufactured and the left hand injuries were waaaayyyyy less.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
For me, inside of the left knee oriented vertically and outside of the right forearm oriented crosswise (left handed backcut on a big spar). Both were just kisses though, didn't even go to the doc for the arm cut.
I read somewhere the most common location in general was left leg.
I read somewhere the most common location in general was left leg.
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- Federal Way WA
Ouch.
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- Western Montana, USA
Amen Dave! FREEDOM! The rest of you can go to europe if you like their rules so much 
I am "one handing" that 3120...oh no! I also never use the decompression valve. This is an awesome occupation, just like my timber falling career, and all it takes to make it miserable is a bunch of rules to constrain the work! If you don't know when you can get away with one handing a little top handled tree saw, and need to be told to NEVER do it, then go work at a desk
I am "one handing" that 3120...oh no! I also never use the decompression valve. This is an awesome occupation, just like my timber falling career, and all it takes to make it miserable is a bunch of rules to constrain the work! If you don't know when you can get away with one handing a little top handled tree saw, and need to be told to NEVER do it, then go work at a deskAttachments
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Like I said before, there is a reason they make two handles on the saw. Both hands on the saw makes the saw work easier and efficient and safer. A Husky rep told me once that it costs about $750,000 to redesign a saw, and that if they wanted to make the top handle saws for one handed use they would only have one handle and the saw development would be cheaper. I figure I'll use this line of reasoning, since it only makes sense to use tools the way they were meant to be used. All of the saws are designed so that if you hold both handles just so, the saw will cut level and straight. Want to cut a perfect 45 degree notch? Place your left index finger at the apex of the bend in the handle. Want that notch 70 degrees? Place your left middle finger there. One handed you can do it, too, but now you are using all sorts of muscles in your back and forearms to do a job that you should be using your noggin to make easier.
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- Midland,Ontario,Canada
Time to wake up people,chainsaw pants on the ground and in the tree.How long did it take getting used to being mandated to wear a seatbelt in your car(maybe 4 minutes).Why not protect the major arteries in your leg with a simple solution.
