Linden with a lean?

‘If the homeowner wanted me to take it down, I’d refuse’

So that is an interesting point.

We not only deal with ‘real’ risk we deal with perceived risk.
I have had clients ask me to take a tree out that poses no obvious risk, healthy, straight etc. But it impinges on the clients quality of life because, rightly or wrongly they worry about it.
I explain there is no real concern about the tree, but then if they still want it out, out it comes, that’s the job.
 
Back in the days when DED first hit I was working with crews that went down the streets removing 200 year old elms. The home owners would get very upset at us, but it was pointed out that the trees where actually in the platted right of way for the road and the homeowners actually did not own them, or the ground they were on.
On a side note, a lot of people quit mowing that portion of lawn when they learned they did not own it. Made for some shabby looking street sides.
 
Mick Dempsey said:
..., but then if they still want it out, out it comes, that’s the job.
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That is where, THE JOB comes into play. That might be your job, but it is not my job. My job is to remove trees, period. That is all I do. I don't prune, trim, or treat. But my job also is to only remove trees that must be removed. Fallen, uprooting, damaged, or in the way for construction. Some of us have a job of giving it their all to save a tree, even if it seems to be on its last leg, or prop it and cable it to keep it upright.
Whoever owns the tree needs to make the decisions as to its future. And the homeowner should have some input as well. But the final decision is up to the village, or whoever owns the property it sits on.
I just know that I wouldn't be the one to take it down.
 
So a perfectly healthy tree in the way of a construction project is morally ok for you to remove, but removing the same tree that blocks light or in some way impinges on a residents enjoyment of their home or garden is against you code of ethics?

Or..
’can you take that tree out, I don’t like it?
‘no’
’can you take that tree out, I like it, but I want to dig a fish pond?’
’sure thing’
 
Mick Dempsey said:
So a perfectly healthy tree in the way of a construction project is morally ok for you to remove, but removing the same tree that blocks light or in some way impinges on a residents enjoyment of their home or garden is against you code of ethics?
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Yep, because in one case it has to come out. In the other, it is just a want.
 
Shadowscape said:
If the homeowner asked me to take it down, I would refuse.
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This is a pretty rare stance- I think it’s great to stand against unnecessary removals, but many do so begrudgingly to fill the schedule.

It’s a luxury to be able to run a company that only takes on jobs that truly take care of trees and only removes hazardous trees.

And some arborists would see this linden as hazardous. And some would not. Or so I’m reading.
 
Stumpsprouts said:
This is a pretty rare stance- I think it’s great to stand against unnecessary removals, but many do so begrudgingly to fill the schedule.

It’s a luxury to be able to run a company that only takes on jobs that truly take care of trees and only removes hazardous trees.

And some arborists would see this linden as hazardous. And some would not. Or so I’m reading.
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I do not disagree with you at all. If I was in that business I would take it down as well, if asked by the owner. I was just pointing out to Mick that not all of us see it as a no brainer removal. And in my position, I would refuse. My position, not anyone else's position.
I probably should not even be in this thread. I just didn't see the tree as a hazard and wanted to add my 2¢.
 
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Interesting how different the lean looks from picture to picture. Initially I thought the root plate was coming up in pic 2, just to the right of the rear bumper of the Honda? Maybe a camera illusion. Seems like too much risk for a high value target, especially given the fact that the roots have been contained/minimized by street and sidewalk.

I’d recommend a significant reduction at least, removal if the customer valued peace of mind.
 
The sidewalk wasn’t lifted. I think it might just be the photo making it look that way. It does look like two sidewalk panels in front of the tree may have been replaced at one point though.

They are submitting the tree evaluation report to the village. Most likely leaning towards removal and replacement. I think in the long run that’s for the best unfortunately.
 
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