leaning silver maple teachable moment

Ah, over-raising the canopy. Never heard it called just "over-raising" but totally makes sense now. And i was still half asleep this a.m. when i wrote that.

Graham, looks like you did a nice job on the tree. How many guys working with you?
 
Treelogic- on this removal, and most of the time when we are doing removals we have a crew of 4. Our street department is 10 guys, and we pick up residential refuse as well so there is a lot of people moving around doing different stuff. I tend to stick to the tree stuff most of the time, except when Im plowing snow, or we are doing a lot of asphalt work. Man, I wouldnt mind your winters down there again, Spent 4 years down in Beaufort when I was in the Marine Corps I really liked it in the lowcountry.
 
Parris Island I presume? That's cool you know the area. We think it's a pretty awesome place. Beaufort is really not much different than Charleston. Of course to me that just means, same trees. Drives the wife crazy.

Winter? It's hard to even call it "winter" down here. Though we actually got snow a few years back. You would've laughed at it though. I don't think you'd have needed the plow, that's for sure.
 
There are plenty of reasons not to "over raise".. and I have never seen a tree become unstable from over raising.. There just isn't enough leverage on the lower limbs to make that much of a difference.. Makes more sense that the tree was reaching for light, & roots were cut during construction...

also the "leaf weight" doesn't make much difference either... The added sail though does...
 
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There are plenty of reasons not to "over raise".. and I have never seen a tree become unstable from over raising.. There just isn't enough leverage on the lower limbs to make that much of a difference.. Makes more sense that the tree was reaching for light, & roots were cut during construction...

also the "leaf weight" doesn't make much difference either... The added sail though does...

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i see your point. i know if you took all the leaves off the tree and carried them in a bag it might not be that much weight. but hold that bag out on a 20 yard stick and see how much weight it is. i think they both play a part.
 
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add rain and wind and leaves and you have got an issue.. storm damage on deciduous trees without leaves is uncommon..

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You sound like you're trying to prove my point, not yours...

Big limb, over roof with 10' of vertical clearance...heavy rain, limb is now touching roof. Where is the wind drag in this scenario? And this effect is compounded on an entire leaning crown. I'm just saying don't discount it, dude. I meant "all of the effects involved" in my original statement on "leaf weight" but tried to sum them up in a brief phrase. You got a little semantics soapbox thing going on here.
 
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add rain and wind and leaves and you have got an issue.. storm damage on deciduous trees without leaves is uncommon..

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You guys must not get a lot of snow out there in Philly...
 
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