Large cuts

nice pics.a few questions;
was the bee hive live?
it's hard to tell in the pics but how tall was the spar?
there's some nasty splintering on the felling cut did it come off with a bang?
did youneed clean pants after?
 
Blue ,

yes that was a live bee hive. Didn't know it was there . The hole was only a littl ebigger then a quarter and it was early morning. Not much movement on there part .I cut right through the center of it ...they got me a couple of times .

The total tree height was around 90' that spar was about 70'. no it didnt come off with a bang because I came in from below and made the trip.If I cut directly back on the cut , then yes it would have popped, but it did hit the ground with a mighty thump!

did I poop my pants ? no not on this one... ha ha. It was a fairly easy take down by my standards and everything went smooth . We were done and cleaned up in four hours.

Greg
 
Greg wrote:
"I guess I'm just a little confused as to what they are saying here . If you cant attach to your D- rings or the waist , where do you attach ? Or, are they saying you should attach to center D , Delta link, or whatever your center connecting point is?"


Greg,

I think you have a valid question regarding this standard. You may want to forward this question to the Accredited Standards Committee of the ANSI Z-133 for a clearer interpretation. The committee meets every April and October , so if you can send it now, it should be addressed at the April meeting.

Send your question to:
International Society of Arboriculture
P.O. Box 3129
Champaign, IL 61826-3129

Thanks
Mike
 
Greg;

The latest revision of the Z says:

"Hip or side D-rings of the arborist saddle should not be used..." (ANSI Z133.1-2000, 9.4.4).

Is that any clearer? It implies that the front D's are to be used, but they are not specifically mentioned.


How do I quote something from someone else's post???

Thanks.

Mahk
 
Mahk (and all) an easy way is to click on "quote" below the box that you type your post in and then go lower to the post that you are replying to. Highlight and copy the sentance you wish to quote and paste it in between the 2 quotes : "quote /quote " that appears. Try it. Like this:



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How do I quote something from someone else's post???

[/ QUOTE ]

See? You can also highlight and hold the left click and drag in between too.
 
</font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
Is that any clearer?

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<font color="red">"Hip or side D-rings of the arborist saddle should not be used</font color>

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Do they mean separately or in conjunction with one another or either way?
 
Mark;

Thanks--but I tried that and can't get it to work. When I click on 'quote' nothing happens--no quotes appear. I can copy and paste something:

Highlight and copy the sentance you wish to quote and paste it in between the 2 quotes : "quote /quote " that appears. Try it

but the phrase 'in reply to' does not appear and there are no quotes.

HTML is off, but UBB code is enabled, so it should work--shouldn't it???

Mahk
 
Mahk,

I have interpreted it as side D s too. However, there was some discussion about what was actually being said.

The picture picture on the safety short was also vague, but this is what I saw.

The climber had a lanyard or his climb line around the trunk and attached to his front Ds or front connecting point. How it was secured , I dont know . Above that was his flipline that he was using for main support.The lanyard was fairly loose , almost more so then the flipline.

I see how the secoundary line being attched to a single point in the front could help prevent major injury . The split would hopefully stop at that point if tied or secured correctly.However, this picture did not seem to be a good example. His so called safety prevenetive messure (climb rope or lanyard)was just as loose or looser then the flipline.

Greg
 
My interpretation of this is to use the front D’s or other front attachment point. The reason is to keep a single attachment point so the harness does not become part of the “loop” as the spar splits. If there is a single attachment point then your body is not being squished in the harness as the split widens. If this isn’t clear think of it this way; each side D has a separate rope attached to a separate truck and they are going in opposite directions. I heard a story of a guy in NH, I think, that died last year. Large Red Oak with co-dominant leads came apart while he had his lanyard around both leads. Of course I could be completely wrong about all of this.
 
I was wondering why a single side D couldn't be used.
I know it's not as practical but for the sake of the rule if the spar splits out you still have a single attachment.
 
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