Lanyard Position On Harness

Is it a "shall" to only use the D rings on a saddle for lanyard placement? I have been wondering about using the leg loops on my Buckingham Master instead in order to take pressure off the small of my back. It takes a little more time to snap into, but that might prevent complacency. Here is the saddle I use: http://www.sherrilltree.com/Professional-Gear/Tree-climbing-saddles-harness/Master-Deluxe
I'm talking about snapping my lanyard to the loops just above the leg strap buckles. Yes or no?
 
Z133-2012 "work-positioning lanyard (6.3.7): ...Correct use of work-positioning lanyard demands that the lanyard be attached from one side-D ring of the saddle (harness), around the anchorage, to the opposite side-D ring of the saddle. Both ends of the lanyard may also be attached to the center attachment point of the saddle. Arborists shall not attach both ends of the lanyard to the same side-D ring of the saddle."

That covers the lanyard...and it seems to me that the saddle you are using has loops intended for attachment in the area where the leg and hip straps cross. I'm fairly confident that that saddle feature is for a wide open split tail climbing system, so if your lanyard is built that way, I say go for it!
 
The z requirement is there because almost all, if not all, "d" rings on
arborists work positioning saddles are not rated for life support individually, but to used in unison.

Most saddles have the d rings rated to about 15kn each. This is so they are not used as a primary attachment point for obvious ergonomic and safety reasons.

As long as the point is life support rated hook rated systems at will.

Tony
 
Thanks for that input, Tony. That clears up some of the "gray area" on the subject.
 
I think this goes back to the Z...My interpretation is that regardless what primary or secondary system is under discussion, you need to be centered if your system terminates to a single biner/mallion/etc..., but if your system terminates at two separate points, each separate termination needs to be attached to mirror image, rated points, or both in the center (if space provides).
 
Oceans, your response is the good sense one and something that we all do most of the time. The z is really only concerned with rated strength of the points. The positioning is left to the harness maker, the materials used and the drop testing required.

There are many times I choose to terminate my lanyard at a central point or the hitch climber while having the adjustment end still on the "d". Makes for comfy chainsaw use and good balance.

Tony
 
All this discussion is continued positive affirmation of my love for my saddle that has rated 'lower' Ds. I've been positioning in what feels like suspension for over a year now and don't think I'll ever go back. It also provides you with a slight, but very welcome amount of additional room for spar work. No more hip pain!

I know that there are still different strokes for different folks, like saddle choice. I recently met a guy that couldn't get comfy in anything but a bosun style saddle. When I put one of those on it caused so much pain I couldn't understand why they were even in production.
 
Have you not learned the law?

That his, is the house of pain?

jomoco
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Shouldn't you be able to use any configuration of any rated attachments points however you damn well please as far as you deem necessary for any particular situation?
 
Suspension trauma could be increased if a victim is hanging more awkwardly than not.
 
Unless OSHA starts climbing trees they are going to have a hard time citing you for anything to do with your lanyard attachment, much less "any configuration of any rated attachments points however you damn well please as far as you deem necessary for any particular situation? "

I am with you Nick! If some guy asks me from the ground where my lanyard is clipped into I will respond with 'HEADACHE!'
 
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Unless OSHA starts climbing trees they are going to have a hard time citing you for anything to do with your lanyard attachment, much less "any configuration of any rated attachments points however you damn well please as far as you deem necessary for any particular situation? "

I am with you Nick! If some guy asks me from the ground where my lanyard is clipped into I will respond with 'HEADACHE!'

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Haha..Lmao!
 
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Unless OSHA starts climbing trees they are going to have a hard time citing you for anything to do with your lanyard attachment, much less "any configuration of any rated attachments points however you damn well please as far as you deem necessary for any particular situation? "

I am with you Nick! If some guy asks me from the ground where my lanyard is clipped into I will respond with 'HEADACHE!'

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OSHA could cite the company (improper use of equipment) if the climber unfortunately became a statistic.
 

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