Kong Dual Ascenders for sale

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rangerdanger

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Lexington, Kentucky
Up for grabs is a pair of Kong dual ascenders. These have only been used twice. I still have the oringal bag and instructions. They still look brand new and feel brand new!! Asking price is $100 plus shipping. Pic to follow soon!
 
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They were a pain the back up. I never figured out a great way to do it really. After I saw the frog walker system video, that's when I knew I wanted to get that. That's what the cash will be going too right now.
 
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Yeah, but we have the older version, which I heard is unsafe and no longer in use. I figured if I had to spend another $100, why not just sell the Kongs and buy the Frog.

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The older version of the Kong? You had a newer version of the Kong in the photo.

I just finally bought the newer version of the Kong Double ascender last week... Prior to that I used the older version. For 6 years I used it 2-3 times per week (no doubt). I never had an incident. It was not unsafe because I used it safely. And I bet there are plenty of people who use the older version safely. Anyway, that subject is debatable...

The frog system has it's place. It is more gear in the tree. IMO it is not a everyday ascent. If it were, then the frog system is great.

Knock yourself out bud!
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If the device isn't secured to the rope through the top holes, it can easily come off the rope. I have witnessed this twice.

Clipping a small biner to the little hole is not totally effective at preventing the rope from coming out either.

Its a big precious egg to dangle on such (IMHO) a questionable design. It must be backed up in some 'effective' way.

I have never had an issue with them either, and it is hard to replicate what I have seen. But I have seen it nonetheless, and that is enough for me.

A system with cams secured in-line, on a suitable secured line, are inherently much safer in several ways. It is a systems approach to safety that is required in this game.

Just my tuppence worth.
 
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Yeah, but we have the older version, which I heard is unsafe and no longer in use. I figured if I had to spend another $100, why not just sell the Kongs and buy the Frog.

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The older version of the Kong? You had a newer version of the Kong in the photo.

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ranger meant the older version of the Dualcender, viz. the Footlocker.

More here:

http://www.treebuzz.com/pdf/CC_Jun07.pdf


IMHO the amount of gear involved with the Kong-plus-backup vs. the Tree Frog (with it's backup) is about the same.
 
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ranger meant the older version of the Dualcender

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That's good cuz I bought his Kong. Has anyone used it on a single rope?
 
hey chuck, I used to, but when I bought your cmi I haven't touched my kong since. It just doesnt advance as smooth as the cmi and its not too often that I'll footlock up double roped when its so easy to do it single line (easier than isolating a high shot that is)

If anyone is looking to buy another set of kong double ascenders pm me, and as always I'm always up for a cool trade

Chuck, thought you would find this funny, but my crew lost the hitch climber I got from you, along with a new hrc eye n eye prusik and two petzl ok biners, not cool man
 
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Mahk

What back-up for the Frog are you refering to???

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Assuming the very basic requirements for a Frog system are a foot ascender and handled ascender (with a tether), there is one more component that serves as a backup to the handled ascender. It could be a Microcender, a Croll, or a friction hitch (and perhaps another tether). But, whatever is used, it is redundant to the function of the system and serves simply as a backup.
 
Kinda splitting words Mahk so please don't take this as being argumentative.

I don't think of the chest ascender in the Frog Walker as a backup. It is a component of the system whose primary function isn't as a backup. It works in conjunction with the other components as a system. At a lower level it does become a redundant attachment but not as a backup in it's own right.

To my thinking, backups and second attachment points are two seperate concepts.
 
So should you place a backup above your frog system considering the croll is not a proper backup.Just wondering if the Ascender failed would it be very safe dangling on the croll- anyone know what the crolls rated at?I did have and old pair of the dual kongs fail with a small biner in the hole.Dude fell like 8 feet and broke his arm in my front yard(he was like 245 and it all landed on that arm).Needless to say I will never use Kongs i-but think I had a defected pair.He took em as a souvenir.
 
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