allmark
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Its a new truck but preemission. I bought it in december.
Knuckleboom crane for Arbor-X
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RogerM
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- Location
- Louisville,KY USA
Great versatility...well thought out!
Nice Allmark.
Couldn't find a post started about your truck. Like to see a few pictures sometime.
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Well, looks like I'm not picking it up on Friday now.
More problems.
Problem #1: They've had a hard time keeping the truck running. It keeps losing it's "prime". Running out of fuel. The crane company has spent lots of time trying to get it to run. They finally just ran a hose, bypassing the fuel hoses and tubes in the tank, and it runs fine. They shouldn't have to deal with that. They've lost time on it all week.
International dealership won't send a guy out to fix it. They said they always have to have it towed in and fix it in the shop. A good mechanic could probably fix it in one or two hours on the spot I think. It's sucking air somewhere probably. Westm. Hydraulics is about 1.5hrs away. That's a long tow and their going to have to use a very large truck to do it. STUPID! They better not ding it up!
Problem #2 Because the truck is a roll off. A valve for the lift axle and some gauge has to be mounted on the passenger side of the truck. Maryland law. Something about so the cops in the weigh stations can see it while it's on the scale.
Problem #3. While running lifting tests with the crane today. Westminster Hydr. discovered it wasn't performing with the "Active Oscillation Suppression system" (AOS). An option I ordered. It's a computer program that controls, or stops any oscillation in the crane boom. Such as you were running it fast and just let off the toggle, it won't bounce with this system. Or if you shock load it, it will dampen the oscillation. Anyway, during testing, they could see it wasn't working. They hooked up the laptop, and found the system wasn't installed. Even though the crane was thought to have it, it even had stickers on it saying it had it. They found this out today, Thursday Aug 23. They contacted Palfinger. A Palfinger technician booked his flight today and will be there Monday morning. Should take half a day to install it. Now that's a good company!
Couldn't find a post started about your truck. Like to see a few pictures sometime.
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Well, looks like I'm not picking it up on Friday now.
More problems.
Problem #1: They've had a hard time keeping the truck running. It keeps losing it's "prime". Running out of fuel. The crane company has spent lots of time trying to get it to run. They finally just ran a hose, bypassing the fuel hoses and tubes in the tank, and it runs fine. They shouldn't have to deal with that. They've lost time on it all week.
International dealership won't send a guy out to fix it. They said they always have to have it towed in and fix it in the shop. A good mechanic could probably fix it in one or two hours on the spot I think. It's sucking air somewhere probably. Westm. Hydraulics is about 1.5hrs away. That's a long tow and their going to have to use a very large truck to do it. STUPID! They better not ding it up!
Problem #2 Because the truck is a roll off. A valve for the lift axle and some gauge has to be mounted on the passenger side of the truck. Maryland law. Something about so the cops in the weigh stations can see it while it's on the scale.
Problem #3. While running lifting tests with the crane today. Westminster Hydr. discovered it wasn't performing with the "Active Oscillation Suppression system" (AOS). An option I ordered. It's a computer program that controls, or stops any oscillation in the crane boom. Such as you were running it fast and just let off the toggle, it won't bounce with this system. Or if you shock load it, it will dampen the oscillation. Anyway, during testing, they could see it wasn't working. They hooked up the laptop, and found the system wasn't installed. Even though the crane was thought to have it, it even had stickers on it saying it had it. They found this out today, Thursday Aug 23. They contacted Palfinger. A Palfinger technician booked his flight today and will be there Monday morning. Should take half a day to install it. Now that's a good company!
allmark
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Problem #2 Because the truck is a roll off. A valve for the lift axle and some gauge has to be mounted on the passenger side of the truck. Maryland law. Something about so the cops in the weigh stations can see it while it's on the scale.
Problem #3. While running lifting tests with the crane today. Westminster Hydr. discovered it wasn't performing with the "Active Oscillation Suppression system" (AOS). An option I ordered. It's a computer program that controls, or stops any oscillation in the crane boom. Such as you were running it fast and just let off the toggle, it won't bounce with this system. Or if you shock load it, it will dampen the oscillation. Anyway, during testing, they could see it wasn't working. They hooked up the laptop, and found the system wasn't installed. Even though the crane was thought to have it, it even had stickers on it saying it had it. They found this out today, Thursday Aug 23. They contacted Palfinger. A Palfinger technician booked his flight today and will be there Monday morning. Should take half a day to install it. Now that's a good company!
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Problem 1... That is probably the adjustment valve for the amount of air pressure to the lift axle. It is the same in NY. It used to be inside the cab but as you drive over the scales it could be adjusted so you could chnge the weight on the axles.
Problem 2.. That sounds like great customer service to get there quickly.
I leave at 3 am tomorrow to pick my crane up. Ill post sat if I get home early enough.
Problem #2 Because the truck is a roll off. A valve for the lift axle and some gauge has to be mounted on the passenger side of the truck. Maryland law. Something about so the cops in the weigh stations can see it while it's on the scale.
Problem #3. While running lifting tests with the crane today. Westminster Hydr. discovered it wasn't performing with the "Active Oscillation Suppression system" (AOS). An option I ordered. It's a computer program that controls, or stops any oscillation in the crane boom. Such as you were running it fast and just let off the toggle, it won't bounce with this system. Or if you shock load it, it will dampen the oscillation. Anyway, during testing, they could see it wasn't working. They hooked up the laptop, and found the system wasn't installed. Even though the crane was thought to have it, it even had stickers on it saying it had it. They found this out today, Thursday Aug 23. They contacted Palfinger. A Palfinger technician booked his flight today and will be there Monday morning. Should take half a day to install it. Now that's a good company!
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Problem 1... That is probably the adjustment valve for the amount of air pressure to the lift axle. It is the same in NY. It used to be inside the cab but as you drive over the scales it could be adjusted so you could chnge the weight on the axles.
Problem 2.. That sounds like great customer service to get there quickly.
I leave at 3 am tomorrow to pick my crane up. Ill post sat if I get home early enough.
- Location
- urbana, il.
I can't wait to see some action photos of both these trucks! David don't worry they'll get it fixed. I had to have a guy fly from Italy once! Mine has been working all the time and making jobs go much faster and more controlled!
Okay, here finally, are some pictures of this new truck in action.
In short, I love it.
I love being in control of the crane and being the climber. Much safer and more efficient in most cases.
Quick overview of this truck/crane. About 70 foot horizontal reach, maybe 85 foot vertical (yeah, haven't measured it, still!), man-basket gives about 6 more feet too. EIGHT hydraulic extentensions, no manual (i didn't want any). I can take 1500 lbs at fully horizontal at full extension (69'3")(worst case). It's a 29 metric ton crane. Another figure; at 15 feet from the truck, it can handle 12,000lbs.
Got the nice option of AOL. Active Oscillation Supression system. As far as I know, Palfinger is the only one that has this. Lets say I'm moving the toggles fast and just let off. Well, without this feature, the boom would bounce and bounce, maybe dangerously. With this feature, the computer system adds hydraulic pressure against the bounce and stops the bouncing very quickly. This also kicks in if you shock loaded it, say a pick shifts or flips. You can see the manual handles moving to counter the bounce, cool. Wonderful option, especially if you are riding on it, or in the man-basket. I can turn this option off, which I only do to demonstrate, it makes a huge difference.
I found I rarilly use the grapple. Only for large amount of logs to pick up. Since I have the hook-lift roll off, its very fast to put the bed on the ground and have the skid-loader load logs (if it's on the job). Hook-lift can yank on 40,000lbs. I'm allowed to haul 30,000lbs by law.
Also, I rarily use the manbasket. Usually just tie into the boom with a climbing line. Man-basket is made by Palfinger also. Very nice. Like $5000.
I don't have the cab protector built yet, nor a single chip/log box. Getting by with some cheap flatbeds right now.
Well, anyway, off to the picture posting...........
first picture, first day using the crane to see it's limitations. Ash log.
In short, I love it.
I love being in control of the crane and being the climber. Much safer and more efficient in most cases.
Quick overview of this truck/crane. About 70 foot horizontal reach, maybe 85 foot vertical (yeah, haven't measured it, still!), man-basket gives about 6 more feet too. EIGHT hydraulic extentensions, no manual (i didn't want any). I can take 1500 lbs at fully horizontal at full extension (69'3")(worst case). It's a 29 metric ton crane. Another figure; at 15 feet from the truck, it can handle 12,000lbs.
Got the nice option of AOL. Active Oscillation Supression system. As far as I know, Palfinger is the only one that has this. Lets say I'm moving the toggles fast and just let off. Well, without this feature, the boom would bounce and bounce, maybe dangerously. With this feature, the computer system adds hydraulic pressure against the bounce and stops the bouncing very quickly. This also kicks in if you shock loaded it, say a pick shifts or flips. You can see the manual handles moving to counter the bounce, cool. Wonderful option, especially if you are riding on it, or in the man-basket. I can turn this option off, which I only do to demonstrate, it makes a huge difference.
I found I rarilly use the grapple. Only for large amount of logs to pick up. Since I have the hook-lift roll off, its very fast to put the bed on the ground and have the skid-loader load logs (if it's on the job). Hook-lift can yank on 40,000lbs. I'm allowed to haul 30,000lbs by law.
Also, I rarily use the manbasket. Usually just tie into the boom with a climbing line. Man-basket is made by Palfinger also. Very nice. Like $5000.
I don't have the cab protector built yet, nor a single chip/log box. Getting by with some cheap flatbeds right now.
Well, anyway, off to the picture posting...........
first picture, first day using the crane to see it's limitations. Ash log.
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allmark
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Re: Pictures of Arbor-X K-boom.
What kind of hook lift is that? How much space does it take up between the bed and the knuckleboom. That looks like a real versitile setup.
Is that Oak or Sugar Maple?
What kind of hook lift is that? How much space does it take up between the bed and the knuckleboom. That looks like a real versitile setup.
Is that Oak or Sugar Maple?
allmark
Participating member
Re: Pictures of Arbor-X K-boom.
How long is the bed you use?
How long is the bed you use?
- Location
- Longmont, CO
Re: Pictures of Arbor-X K-boom.
One of these day, I'll get me one of those. But, for now I'll keep dreaming
One of these day, I'll get me one of those. But, for now I'll keep dreaming
Re: Pictures of Arbor-X K-boom.
It's a Palfinger 29002.
Palfinger also makes the hook-lift roll-off.
So it all works well together.
actual width of the k-boom folded and components, is 37.80 inches. But I'd guess there is about 5 foot span from the cab to the bed headboard, I can measure later if you care.
It's a Palfinger 29002.
Palfinger also makes the hook-lift roll-off.
So it all works well together.
actual width of the k-boom folded and components, is 37.80 inches. But I'd guess there is about 5 foot span from the cab to the bed headboard, I can measure later if you care.
Re: Pictures of Arbor-X K-boom.
this picture might be a little more interesting.
like i said, the boom is about 85' tall, this tulip poplar is maybe 100 or 110.
boom at full reach, could have used more height.
attached at full reach and left enough butt on it so it wouldn't flip.
had a control line on butt, just in case.
truck was close to the tree.
didn't even register on my percentage scale (lights on the remote). not untill i moved it out toward the chipper.
this picture might be a little more interesting.
like i said, the boom is about 85' tall, this tulip poplar is maybe 100 or 110.
boom at full reach, could have used more height.
attached at full reach and left enough butt on it so it wouldn't flip.
had a control line on butt, just in case.
truck was close to the tree.
didn't even register on my percentage scale (lights on the remote). not untill i moved it out toward the chipper.
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allmark
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Re: Pictures of Arbor-X K-boom.
Nice size pic. Arent these kbooms great.
You operate it from the tree also?
Nice size pic. Arent these kbooms great.
You operate it from the tree also?
Re: Pictures of Arbor-X K-boom.
the very first day was the only day I used it a little from the ground and had another climber do some cuts. That same day, I climbed and worked it.
I had to admit, before I did it, it sounded like it could be a little unsafe.
Far from the truth. Much much safer, being the climber and the crane operator.
I learned to always hit the E-stop button when I'm going to climb to a new position. Other things I've discovered to look out for and do for safety with K-booms too. maybe i'll start another post on that sometime.
the very first day was the only day I used it a little from the ground and had another climber do some cuts. That same day, I climbed and worked it.
I had to admit, before I did it, it sounded like it could be a little unsafe.
Far from the truth. Much much safer, being the climber and the crane operator.
I learned to always hit the E-stop button when I'm going to climb to a new position. Other things I've discovered to look out for and do for safety with K-booms too. maybe i'll start another post on that sometime.
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