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- Pukalani, Hawaii
anyone have some good, fun ideas for an SRT ascent with minimal gear?
thanks
just for fun SRT minimal gear ideas?
- Thread starter Maui Palm & Tree Care
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- Retired in Minneapolis
There isn't a simpler SRT system than the Unicender attached to an adjustable bridge.
treebing
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- Detroit, Mi.
a hitch, rope wrench, your feet and your hands.
countryboypa31
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- PA
Hitch, Rope Wrench and pantin is extremely efficient as well as simple.
treewill
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- Everywhere and nowhere
microcender and pantin. better yet, microcender and the old one-footed footlock trick.
- Location
- Pukalani, Hawaii
im thinking im gonna try to make a rope wrench out of some aluminum. im afraid of making one out of wood and it splitting on me
southsoundtree
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- Olympia, WA
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microcender and pantin. better yet, microcender and the old one-footed footlock trick.
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Is this wrapping a 540* bight of rope around your foot with the tail back to your hand, pinching the Up and Down strands or rope or...?
microcender and pantin. better yet, microcender and the old one-footed footlock trick.
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Is this wrapping a 540* bight of rope around your foot with the tail back to your hand, pinching the Up and Down strands or rope or...?
treebing
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- Detroit, Mi.
The recent ISA article says,
"considerable expense can be involved in purchasing the proper equipment to use in an SRT system, and this should not be underestimated. However there is no room for makeshift or piecemeal equipment in these systems without jeopardizing safety"
A perfectly good and safe entry level SRT system that is efficient can be rigged entirely out of rope and soft gear. If you have carabiners they can help. Then you need some sort of descent device. SRT is just climbing rope. SRT can be as simple as footlocking. I wish he had mentioned that in the article.
I think srt on a fat 9/16th double braid rope is awesome. You can really do some tarzan like stuff swinging on a big vine and you can climb it fast because it such a nice handhold. especially especially nice on a removal. SRT fat lines is much more efficient unless you have to pull your rope around a lot, that can be tiring. The frenchie twin line prussic style is awesome too. they can 1:1 or 2;1 at will.
1:1 vs 2:1 they both have there purpose but I don't see one being more complicated or expensive than the other. anything is as complicated and expensive as you want to make it. complicating things is fun and part of it too.
I feel that SRT has this rep of being gear heavy, complicated and scary. It really is not that way at all. Ascend rope... descend rope.
"considerable expense can be involved in purchasing the proper equipment to use in an SRT system, and this should not be underestimated. However there is no room for makeshift or piecemeal equipment in these systems without jeopardizing safety"
A perfectly good and safe entry level SRT system that is efficient can be rigged entirely out of rope and soft gear. If you have carabiners they can help. Then you need some sort of descent device. SRT is just climbing rope. SRT can be as simple as footlocking. I wish he had mentioned that in the article.
I think srt on a fat 9/16th double braid rope is awesome. You can really do some tarzan like stuff swinging on a big vine and you can climb it fast because it such a nice handhold. especially especially nice on a removal. SRT fat lines is much more efficient unless you have to pull your rope around a lot, that can be tiring. The frenchie twin line prussic style is awesome too. they can 1:1 or 2;1 at will.
1:1 vs 2:1 they both have there purpose but I don't see one being more complicated or expensive than the other. anything is as complicated and expensive as you want to make it. complicating things is fun and part of it too.
I feel that SRT has this rep of being gear heavy, complicated and scary. It really is not that way at all. Ascend rope... descend rope.
southsoundtree
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- Location
- Olympia, WA
What is that frenchie twin line prussic style called? I liked that. Fighting friction on DdRT is a drag, pun intended.
- Location
- Pukalani, Hawaii
what are the rules of attachment for SRT?
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- Retired in Minneapolis
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what are the rules of attachment for SRT?
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Make sure that your attachments don't fail
Working SRT does require a bit of new mental gymnastics but the ground rules are no different than DdRT. There is no 'rule' anywhere besides ITCC that requires any different connection when climbing SRT.
There is a bias about SRT in many places. If the same criteria that is being tossed in front of SRT were applied with the same zeal at DdRT there would be changes in DdRT techniques.
Does someone have a link to the ISA SRT article? I was talking with a friend about it a couple of days ago.
what are the rules of attachment for SRT?
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Make sure that your attachments don't fail
Working SRT does require a bit of new mental gymnastics but the ground rules are no different than DdRT. There is no 'rule' anywhere besides ITCC that requires any different connection when climbing SRT.
There is a bias about SRT in many places. If the same criteria that is being tossed in front of SRT were applied with the same zeal at DdRT there would be changes in DdRT techniques.
Does someone have a link to the ISA SRT article? I was talking with a friend about it a couple of days ago.
- Location
- Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
I just got my ZK-1 rope wrench. I'm loving it on tachyon with
HRC VT. It makes more sense to me now that I can see it on a rope. Great design Kevin. I'm still trying to figure out my SRT system. Wrench-hitch-pantin is what I'm starting with. I also picked up a CMI hand ascender. Does anyone use one with the wrench?
HRC VT. It makes more sense to me now that I can see it on a rope. Great design Kevin. I'm still trying to figure out my SRT system. Wrench-hitch-pantin is what I'm starting with. I also picked up a CMI hand ascender. Does anyone use one with the wrench?
countryboypa31
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- PA
I use a CMI hand ascender with a foot loop for long ascents (a tree frog system)
- Location
- Pukalani, Hawaii
so here what i have come up with. pantin right foot, right handled ascender with foot loop for left foot, hitch center D-ring. might buy a petzle basic or croll to take the hitches place. i think wesspur sells a kit for $150. with all these components.
treebing
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- Detroit, Mi.
the key is to be able to pull the back of the wrench up which in turn pulls the slack tender puller up the rope. I use my lanyard over the shoulder to hold up the wrench. Another option is to have the ascend er pulling up the wrench/ hitch.
I have been playing around with a simple ascent system that works for me. VT attached as per normal, lanyard clips to bridge ring and is choked around 1 foot as a footloop, pantin on the other foot. When you get to the top just put the lanyard back on your hip ring, lanyard in, untie running bowline and clip the splice in to hitchclimber. If I need to descend on the way up just use spare biner and munter below hitch or figure 8.
