Is there a Climbing Line requirement?

southsoundtree

southsoundtree

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I heard people talking about a requirement to have a climbing rope as one of your two attachment points while chainsaw-ing in the tree. Is that up for discuss with ANSI revisions, or ...?



Is this required in other countries, outside the US?
 
From ANSI Z133 2012

6.3.7 Arborists shall be tied in and use a second means of being secured (i.e., workpositioning lanyard or second climbing line) when operating a chain saw in a tree.
Using two work-positioning lanyards or both ends of a two-in-one work-positioning lanyard shall not be considered acceptable as two means of being secured when using a chain saw in a tree.

EXCEPTION
When the employer demonstrates that a greater hazard is posed by using a second means of being secured while operating a chain saw in that particular situation.

8.1.18 While working aloft, the climber shall have available a climbing line and at least one other means of being secured on his/her person at all times (example: an arborist climbing line and a work-positioning lanyard). Two means of being secured shall be used when the arborist determines that it is advantageous.

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The 2016 Z133 will be out for public comment in the next few days. As soon as it is public there will be a notice.
 
That's great info Tom,thanks for posting that. I didn't know that you HAD to have a climbing line with you at all times when using a saw. That's great info. :birra:
 
I'm curious about this. Maybe I'm just not seeing it right.
What would be the situation where you would not want a climbing line with you while using a saw in a tree?
If you were to tie in with two lanyards and something happened while using the saw, how would you descend?
 
From what I have been informed, in Europe you must have a climb line, lanyard, and steel core lanyard while cutting aloft. Honestly I have never used a steel core nor do I ever want to.

I agree with @Tom Dunlap that I have read about a climb line long enough to reach the ground as well. I think this was one of the revisions from previous standards but can't find it either.
 
Arborist safe working practices (2011) guide for Ontario that is available online indicates OHSA 'rules' and stating that the final anchor for a friction saver or rope will be around the main stem and a secondary tie in shall be used with ANY sharp tools. That's as far as it goes.
 
Why wouldn't anyone ever not want a way to descend all the way to the ground? [emoji219][emoji887][emoji220][emoji221][emoji222][emoji216]Even on inspection, I've got into too many ant, hornet, and butterfly nests - causing me to flail around like a 3 year old girl, fearing my life and God, and nearly causing myself serious injury on rapid descent.


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NorCalBrock said:
Why wouldn't anyone ever not want a way to descend all the way to the ground? [emoji219][emoji887][emoji220][emoji221][emoji222][emoji216]Even on inspection, I've got into too many ant, hornet, and butterfly nests - causing me to flail around like a 3 year old girl, fearing my life and God, and nearly causing myself serious injury on rapid descent.


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So, so, so many scenarios...
What if the ground was hurt on a two man crew...
A neighbor needs to talk to you right away...
Your wife's pregnant and you're expecting the call any minute...

Reed Wortley
CTSP #01739
ISA CA #SO-6953A
 
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