I am removing the SAKA from the market.

I am sorry to hear about all this Richard. I wish you the best moving forward. I wish I would have bought one when they were still for sale. Once I saw how efficient your setup is, I was sold. I was going to buy one the following week and then they were gone. It is a sad day for innovation when the superior product is forced off the market.
 
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I do regret not buying the SAKA in place of the HAAS and I'm totally on board with a 100% Weaver boycott. Richard, if you are interested in doing a Kickstarter Campaign, or something similar to get back on track, I'll gladly pitch in.
 
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I deeply regret not buying the SAKA in place of the haas and I'm totally on board with a 100% Weaver boycott. Richard, if you are interested in doing a Kickstarter Campaign, or something similar to put these trolls in their proper place, I'll gladly pitch in.
Honestly I don't want ill will and I just want to move forward and past this roadblock. I only have the present and hopes for the future, both need to improve. Let's climb. I'd say "Keep Climbing" but I suspect that is copyrighted. (My humor, please smile)
 
Its hard to tell whether Richard applied for a similar patent before, during or after this was filed by HAAS. It would appear the saka does cross the line, or visa versa, from a design standpoint, if Richard holds a similar patent or applied sooner or later. I'm guessing Richard, in true form, used the concept and made it better. In hindsight, maybe Haas should hire Richard and upgrade the Haas, so its lighter and more SAKA like.
 
If it is similar enough to the HAAS, that it doesn't warrant its own patent, it would be nice to see Weaver buy the rights to the SAKA (if Richard is interested in selling) and combine the 2 or have 2 separate offerings. If it is different enough, maybe the best thing would be for another company to buy the rights to the SAKA and defend it. Of course, buying the design to something you know will head to court doesn't leave a lot of money to pay for the design, so probably not real motivating for Richard to sell into that situation - if he is interested in a larger company picking it up at all...
 
the priority date is june or may 5th or 6th of 2013 (see how they even write the dates different than most people in order to confuse).
 
Please, please if you feel strongly, email Weaver and let them know how you feel. I know of many who have emailed them today and its been suggested, this may actually make a difference.
 
You guys know weaver is not some huge multinational corporation? It’s just a family company that makes leatherish goods for many industries. Just because you don’t agree with how they do business don’t make it wrong. You all sound ready for holy war over here. They are not trying to take over the world, or even the industry. We are talking about one product. In a sea of products in our industry. I think perspective is important.

And this isn’t directed at Richard, you actually have stuff to discuss, this was a loss for you I get that whether or not I agree with your position. I am just talking to all the arm chair patent attorneys.
 
I do regret not buying the SAKA in place of the HAAS and I'm totally on board with a 100% Weaver boycott. Richard, if you are interested in doing a Kickstarter Campaign, or something similar to get back on track, I'll gladly pitch in.
I too would be interested in supporting a gofundme type drive to assit with legal fees and such.
 
You guys know weaver is not some huge multinational corporation? It’s just a family company that makes leatherish goods for many industries. Just because you don’t agree with how they do business don’t make it wrong. You all sound ready for holy war over here. They are not trying to take over the world, or even the industry. We are talking about one product. In a sea of products in our industry. I think perspective is important.

And this isn’t directed at Richard, you actually have stuff to discuss, this was a loss for you I get that whether or not I agree with your position. I am just talking to all the arm chair patent attorneys.
Just trying to keep facts clear, it is no longer just a family company, maybe that is the difference.
 
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9643054

here is a link to the HAAS patent if anyone is interested or can understand any of it. I think the SAKA is a great product but it is way beyond my understanding wether or not the SAKA violates any of it. that is up to people who can speak patenteese.
Just a little correction:
The disputed patent US20160059080A1 excludes the double tube, bungee external to the load bearing member and assembly with webbing components of the Velox which I may add were added after the design of the SAKA was presented.
 
Mild derail in progress. Very cool, swingdude! Have you told Kayleigh Naylor about the TreeBuzz forum? I'd love to hear about her adventures working in foreign lands! Maybe you could mention us to her? Thanks!

Tim
Tim she is off the forum scene at the moment......and PM me your address I owe you a chesty....as promised..have a few of my new version laying around.
 
Because I like to beat dead horses...

If anyone read the original HAAS patent it is very specific to the function and materials being patented, to infringe, someone would need to use the same materials and have them function the same way.

The original HAAS patent was specific to -
  • An elastic cord only attached at one end.
  • A braided polyester rope tether
  • A boat clip on the elastic
  • A foot loop that is formed as a continuation of the tether rope.
All of these are brilliant additions to Baranek's rope walker system he described and pictured in his books. Michael should be proud of these innovations and should be compensated for them. Weaver, as the current patent holder should manufacture and sell this system and make tons of money.

The SAKA has NONE of these features. It does have a list of innovations not found anywhere in the HAAS patent, like a custom rope grab, a stronger cord fastened at both ends, a semi rigid sewn tether, dual micro carabiner connection points, a sewn footloop that stays on your boot for later use, the loop is flat and coated so you can walk and climb on it...

And that's just off the top of my head, the point is, there is no patent case. The SAKA is comfortably it's own system that accomplishes the same task as the HAAS, and other rope walker systems.

In my mind then, the actions taken against Richard are not based on patent infringement, they are an attempt to use patent law as an excuse to litigate a competing product with a smaller bankroll out of the market.

This is why I'm sticking my big nose in the discussion, I'm just not cool with that.
 

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